PBA South Region Tourney this weekend

Posted by: Chubbs

PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/10/09 10:13 AM

I'll be bowling in my first PBA event this weekend in Milton, FL. It's on the Viper, which is probably my favorite pattern so I'm hoping to do well. After watching the regional in November in Fort Walton Beach instead of bowling in it, I decided I didn't want to sit another one out. Hope to have some good stories to bring back!
Posted by: Calvin Pistorio

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/10/09 05:53 PM

Good luck.
Posted by: kwik8

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/11/09 12:13 AM

Good luck, good you are confident on the pattern should help.
Posted by: Jay R.

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/11/09 12:28 AM

Hope you've got some good things to report after it's over as well. Good luck.
Posted by: Chubbs

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/14/09 11:31 PM

Well fellahs, that was more humble pie than one should eat in a sitting. I didn't come in dead last, but it was close. After the third game, it had gotten so ugly that I decided all I was going to do was hit the head pin and then clean up what was left. The problem was I couldn't it hit a target to save my life all day long, especially with the spare ball. I don't know what's wrong with me now, but practicing is making it worse. It might be a summer of only softball and golf. Sorry not to have any fun stories to share.
Posted by: Jay R.

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/15/09 01:10 AM

Sorry to hear that Chubbs. What was the pattern? Also, maybe you can shed some light on how lane courtesy works in PBA events because I'm a little confused. I understand that you have to wait for someone on both pairs on either side of you to throw a shot before you get up to bowl your first shot. But 1) Do you have to do the same thing for your spare shot? If not, when may you go? And 2)Since there's most likely two people on a pair up at the same time(one for each lane), how do you determine which of you goes? My guess is the person on the lane that is behind(i.e I'm the second person on lane one and the second person one lane two just finished), and besides the beginning of each game two people across from each other(on the computer) won't be getting up to bowl at the same time.

Thanks for any help.
Posted by: CoachJim

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/15/09 07:04 AM

Sorry you didn't bowl well Chubbs, post a video and maybe I can see what's going on.

What was your ball reaction like, too strong, or too weak?

Did you get to cross with any of the big boys, they were off this week?

I've personally never known anyone to get better by taking the summer off, so don't expect to give up bowling, then come back in the fall and be better than you are right now.
Posted by: Chubbs

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/15/09 02:40 PM

Viper pattern, which is a favorite of mine. I had great looks from multiple angles with multiple balls in practice on Friday, but Saturday was different. I'd never bowled in that house before, and it turned out to be a very high friction synthetic. I think every ball I used is going to need a resurface because the track is so burnt.

The lane courtesy isn't as complex as it sounds. When it's your turn, you wait for the person on your pair opposite you to bowl, then wait for someone on the pairs either side of you. If you leave a spare, that cycle starts all over. Not that cosmic, but wow is it slow. The eight game block took 6 hours yesterday.

No big names came out for the tourney. Learned recently that we have a Silver level coach/IPBSIA pro shop guy in the area about an hour away, so I'm going visit him soon. I tried following the crowd left with transition, and I found that the further left we went, the more inconsistent my reaction became. The breakdown happened so fast that I was really struggling to keep up with it. I'd leave an 8 or 9, change hand position on the next shot to smooth out the backend, and then leave a pocket 7-10 or 5-7 etc. Change hand position back, move in, and then leave a 2-10. As I moved deeper, it felt like I couldn't keep my fingers in the ball long enough to apply the revs needed to get the ball to recover since the breakpoint stayed around 5 for the whole block. Tried tightening the fingers with tape to no avail, perhaps a pitch adjustment? I don't think I'll stop bowling altogether, but I'm such a mess right now that it's tough to get excited about it. This, too, shall pass though I'm sure thumbsup.
Posted by: kwik8

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/15/09 03:11 PM

try not to let it get you down having a tough tournament. I just got back to bowling and have been struggling and have a sub 200 average for the first time since juniors. I string 4 or 5 have a decent game going then leave a 10 and get frustrated, don't concentrate and miss my spare etc.etc. 230+ games become 180ish=190ish. I was getting really frustrated a few weeks ago but bowled a 700 series and that helped pick up my spirits a bit and made me feel a little better. So much of bowling is mental. Anyhow at least you got some experience. Sorry to hear you didn't bowl better.
Posted by: CoachJim

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/15/09 07:57 PM

Chubbs, were all of the scores down, or just yours?

The ones you saw scoring well, how were they playing the shot, (ball, drilling, standing, aiming, break point, rotation and speed)?

Usually when you are getting an over/under reaction, your ball didn't have enough surface and wasn't burning up enough energy before hitting the pins.
Posted by: Chubbs

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/15/09 10:49 PM

Scores were down across the board. The breakdown was so quick and drastic that there were some guys trying to cross 6th arrow in the last game.

Righty that was on my pair and qualified 4th was the one I was trying to follow through the transition. He found a home crossing 3d arrow out to 5 at the BP. He was using a Brunswick Time Zone with some shine on it, pin up and a little right of his ring finger. My ball speed was higher than his, so I was using my HyRoad at 4000 abralon. By the time I put it away the track looked like it had been hit with a 320 pad. Same thing happened with my T Road Pearl at OOB and Gravity Shift at OOB. Granted, I didn't throw every ball the way I wanted, but even when I did I wasn't getting the good result.
Posted by: CoachJim

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/16/09 05:48 AM

Is your rev rate higher than the righty that qualified?

If the righty that qualified had the same rev rate, but less speed than you and was using a weak solid ball drilled to flare, you may have been grabbing on the ball at the release, this causes the ball to over/under react as it comes out of the oil as you described.

A softer release will help scoot the ball through the heads instead of making it dig in and grab early. Softening the release shouldn't effect your rev rate if done properly, this might be an area you want to look at.
Posted by: sk8shorty01

Re: PBA South Region Tourney this weekend - 03/17/09 01:52 PM

I agree with CoachJim here. A good example of this was Michael Fagan three or so weeks ago. he was nice and smooth through the ball until the finals and then it looked like his release got a little to deliberate and that caused a lot of over/under reaction. I think if you could float the ball out a little more it would have given you a much more predictable path to the pocket.