TAT - True Amateur Tournament

Posted by: BowlerBill

TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 03/28/16 06:09 PM

Has anyone ever bowling in the TAT - True Amateur Tournament? It seems like a high paying tournament held in Vegas twice a year. Next event comes up in July 4-9, 2016.

http://www.trueamateurtournaments.com/

Thanks

Bill
Posted by: David170

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 03/28/16 07:20 PM

No I havn't but it looks like a great tourney.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 03/29/16 12:15 AM

Yeah, I've heard of it, Bill. Alex Aguiar, one of the best amateurs in New England, won it two years ago and I know a bowler in the Coke league who finished 2nd in it before that. I'm guessing it's pretty much replaced the High Roller as the big annual (or semi-annual) Vegas tournament.
Posted by: BowlerBill

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 03/29/16 01:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Richie V.
Yeah, I've heard of it, Bill. Alex Aguiar, one of the best amateurs in New England, won it two years ago and I know a bowler in the Coke league who finished 2nd in it before that. I'm guessing it's pretty much replaced the High Roller as the big annual (or semi-annual) Vegas tournament.


Yes, it did replace the High Roller tournament that used to held in Vegas.

I find it interesting that you know two people who did very well in it. A bowler in the under 189 bracket won it this past Feb, which probably gives a lot of hope to recreational oriented bowlers.

Are these two guys you know, the type of bowler you would expect to do well in this tournaments? (very precise, very repeatable and with great ball movement and action)

Did they talk about the tournament, the lane patterns used and their experience in it?

As with the High Roller, I expect there is a lot of money to made in brackets but I didn't read much about brackets

I'm giving this tournament some consideration.

Thanks Bill
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 03/29/16 02:46 PM

Bill, I know Alex, as well, and he's done well on all kinds of lane conditions, including top 40 and higher finishes at nationals. The bowler in the Coke league I know bowls with Shannon O'Keefe's group at nationals, too.
Posted by: dalion

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 04/14/16 04:44 PM

I bowled this tournament once. I did not do well. I thought it was absurd how they oiled. I remember bowling 1 squad where the back end was REAL strong, at the start of bowling, but after only 6 frames, the oil carried down an there was NO shot at all. Now I bowled it prolly 10 years ago, so maybe its changed? I preferred High Roller since at least their lane condition was consistent an at least I cashed a few times. All I got from the TAT was a ball. I still get offers from them in the mail and 'maybe' 1 day i'll go back and try it again. It's not like I'm bad bowler, I mean I've beat some good bowlers in the High Roller match play, I just found the lane conditions in TAT to be too variable. Even the National Open has at least a consistent shot. But again, my opinion could be skewed based only attempting the TAT once.

Gonna be interesting next year @nationals when the new sport adjustment goes into effect. With my 185 avg @nationals, i'll be adjusted to 211.
Posted by: goobee

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 04/30/16 12:04 AM

I'm interested in bowling this. Can someone explain what all this "VIP" stuff is about?

Posted by: dalion

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 04/30/16 11:28 AM

the VIP squads are just side tournaments. Its basically multiple tournaments in one. U got the main event, or qualifying squad, which I think is the larger prize fund, then each VIP squad, if u bowl well u can cash $. There is also "Optional" sweeper squads where u can also win $$. So multiple squads, lots of bowling. I "think" the VIP's are 2 games and the sweeper is 3 games. Can't recall if the main event was 2 or 3 games. Now this is just going from memory, without actually looking at their website/entry form, an I last bowled 12 or 13 years ago.
Posted by: dalion

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 04/30/16 01:59 PM

It may be that all the VIP squads are tied to 1 prize fund and if u do well in one, u really don't need the others. The others are just to better u'r score? But I can't recall if that's how its set up or not.

1 of our bowlers bowled it last year, so lemme ask him what his opinion is.
Posted by: goobee

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 04/30/16 11:10 PM

Hm, if I reserve by today, there is an extra VIP entry. It sounds like from your description the extra VIPs are reentries since they are tied to the same prize fund.
Posted by: dalion

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 05/03/16 04:32 PM

I confirmed they are tied to the same prize fund, an add'l entries is just to 'better your score'. The bowler in our group who went last year said the conditions were consistent. he also liked the No Tap squad, but I don't think he cashed in anything. He mainly went to get the new bowl.
Posted by: goobee

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 05/03/16 08:54 PM

dalion, did your friend mention anything about the oil pattern? Long, short, flat etc.
Posted by: dalion

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 05/04/16 10:56 AM

I'm gonna see him on Monday so I'll ask him about it then.
Posted by: BowlerBill

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 05/04/16 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: goobee
dalion, did your friend mention anything about the oil pattern? Long, short, flat etc.


Goobee, Here is a link to the two patterns, 1 at 39 feet and 1 at 42 feet.

http://www.trueamateurtournaments.com/#!lane-pattern/c1rlu

I'd like to hear what some of the good bowlers here think of these patterns, the type of balls and surfaces to use and line to throw. I realize these factors will be different depending on each bowler's physical game and skills. Bill
Posted by: goobee

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 05/04/16 11:48 PM

Thanks Bill. Some real world feedback would indeed be helpful.
Posted by: dalion

Re: TAT - True Amateur Tournament - 05/10/16 04:57 PM

This is what I got from him:
"Lane conditions were consistent, not long oil, not short oil. Playing 3rd arrow was the most consistent line, trying to play down an in, couldn't get the ball to recover enough, kept hitting light"

He's a stroker so doenst have as much hook as a cranker would.