Your favorite PBA bowler

Posted by: Justinmill14

Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/06/08 10:00 PM

Well, the title pretty much says it. Who is your favortie pba bowler?
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/06/08 10:41 PM

I would be lying if I didn't say Tommy Jones.

He is practically the face of both the present and future of the Tour, for the man who was fastest between 1st and 10th titles (by 4 days- 2 years, 6 months and 7 days, the record was formerly 2 years 6 months 11 days, held by the late great [censored] Weber), what else can he do besides winning the Grand Slam and bowl 300 on TV? He has already won 2 majors, been both POY and ROY in his career, and won over $1 million in career earnings, what is next for TJ? I can't wait to see him on TV again this season!

His form (for a power player) is superb, he posts shots like if he was a stroker. Also, he seems to never beat himself mentally, his talent level at 30, as well as his list of accomplishments during his PBA stint as well as his days in the YABA and ABC levels, should be compared on the same levels of Roger Federer in tennis or even the great Tiger Woods in golf.
Posted by: Jay R.

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/06/08 11:00 PM

I can't pick between two.

1)Norm Duke. The man is a beast. He has a way of showing the right emotions at the right time and you've gotta like that about a pro these days. I'll go as far as to say he's the best bowler today, as far as I'm concerned.

2)Mike Machuga. If I heard correctly, Norm Duke is/was his mentor. He may not have many titles, but his physical game is something I would be very glad to have. I can't get over the fact that there's nothing about it that I wouldn't change for my own game. Very fluid, free swing, good release and balance. I try to model my approach after his to be honest. I'd heard the name before but when I first saw him bowl as the 5-seed in the Chameleon Championship, he was my pick all the way.
Posted by: txbowler

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/07/08 12:47 AM

Difficult to pick just one. Over the past 6 months or so, I've been extremely fortunate to have met and bowled with several of the top exempt players. Chris Barnes lives not far away from me and I see him and Linda now and then. In August, I played with Nathan Bohr, Rhino Page, and Wes Malott. Last month, I met Norm Duke. Every one of them thus far were extremely nice - no big egos. Personally though, my style is similar to Walter Ray Williams, Jr. - although haven't had the opportunity to meet him yet. I'd probaby pick him as my favorite.
Posted by: Stormin Norman Fan

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/07/08 01:24 AM

Well, as the name states, Norm Duke is my guy. His game is so versatile. He can throw the big hook with the best of them and can play it down and in as well, which he does more often than not. After that, I'd have to say Walter Ray Williams, primarily for the same reasons. He's just as versatile as Duke. Both of them are as accurate as they come.

I don't try to emulate anyone. Everyone has their own style. But, it's because of these two, that I've learned to make my game just as versatile as they do. I can swing it with the best of them, or play straight up the boards too, when necessary. Hand position is the biggest key, along with the ability to maintain that position all the way through your swing.

My all time favorite though, has to be Earl Anthony. He was the original Mr. Smooth. He made bowling look like a walk in the park. Parker Bohn III is the closest I've seen to date, that is as smooth as he was. They are arguably, two of the best lefties to ever play the game.
Posted by: Upriser

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/07/08 02:57 AM

although i dont get to see much bowling over here, Tommy Jones would be my favourite so far...man, i wish i could duplicate that style! also, i seen Ken Simard bowl the other day against Chris Barnes(another favourite) and liked what i saw there too. hopefully Ken backs it up with at least a couple more final appearences and goes on with it...
Posted by: Satyuros

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/07/08 01:28 PM

Tommy jones is my favourite as well. For a great power player, he really doesn't show it in his style sometimes. That's why his style will probably meet the test of time and fair well, unlike people like Robert Smith who battle a lot of injuries. I also really love Norm duke, since I'm a small guy like him, haha, at Canadian team trials I was starting to be nick named Norm. He's really classy, and very versatile, and very mentally hardened. His world championship win was a true testament, being so ill through all of it. I also like Parker bohn, having met him in person for a clinic, I like Mike machuga as well. I like Jason Belmonte, haha, gotta love the aussie.
Posted by: General Pounder

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 08:50 AM

I like PDW and Jeff Carter. I met PDW years ago and I liked him a lot. This past summer, I bowled in a Pro Am with Jeff Carter. What a class act. Signed any autographs for people that they wanted, talked to anyone who came up to him, and was generally a nice guy.
Posted by: Tim Gerard

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 09:14 AM

Its hard to pick just one, so I'll pick three wink .
I like PDW, Norm Duke, and although he is no longer touring Brian Voss. I met Duke and Voss, and always appreciated their game, and they are such genuinely nice guys. If I could emulate one guy it would be Weber. I think he has the perfect approach and release,...so smooth.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 10:09 AM

I wish I had the revs like Tommy Jones. But, I really like PBIII. His approach, timing and release are the smoothest.

When I grow up, I want to bowl like PBIII.
Posted by: cgeorg

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 10:55 AM

When I grow up, I want to bowl like Walter Ray. Most titles, most money? Where do I sign?
Posted by: 30 Clean

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 11:09 AM

If I had to pick 1 current player it would probably be Norm Duke. But then again, they all seem like really cool people. Never had the chance to meet any of them tho. Hopefully, I can get into a pro-am soon and change that.
Posted by: eastwest

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 03:03 PM

I'd say Parker, but ultimately my fav. guy is Machuga. His physical game is similar to mine, he's a well-spoke gentleman, and the mental toughness is there.
Posted by: TheDemolitionMan

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 03:07 PM

It's hard to say really. I'm kind of partial towards WRW and the Duke myself. But, The Big Nasty I have to admire because he is self-taught and TJ because he is a power player but it seems like he is rather versatile and versatility is something you need in bowling, in my opinion.
Posted by: Scott Gannon

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/09/08 09:21 PM

Walter Ray for Me. I also like Duke and Barnes.
Posted by: dmoney298

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/10/08 07:30 AM

Im with Scott. Walter Ray, Duke and Barnes. After that I would say Parker Bohn and Tommy Jones
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/10/08 08:27 AM

Meeting a Pro? I do have an autographed program signed by Buzz Fazio and Billy Welu from 1969, somewhere in a box. I have a photograph signed by Shirley Garms who was a personal friend of my Aunt who bowled Pro together. Probably in the same box.

I got a XMas card from Laurie Nichols once too. She owned the Center where I formerly bowled in the 80's and currently bowl. Maybe that's in the box too.

My Aunt would take me to all of the Chicago events when I was a kid.

BTW, another lady Pro from the days, Loretta Mroz was a good friend of my Aunt. She since has passed. But, I just found out that one of the older guys who still manages a local center, is her younger brother, Dennis. He's 78 and still bowls 3 times a week. Carries a 187 or so.
Posted by: Rack Wrecker

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 12/10/08 10:16 AM

My favorite Pro has to be either Chris Barnes or Tommy Jones
Posted by: sk8shorty01

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/06/09 01:46 PM

I have to say Norm Duke is my favorite by far. I love his attitude and he is just a down to Earth guy. I have bowled in a few clinics that he put on, with help from Randy Pedersen, Bo Burton, and Dave Soutar and all of them were great people as well as bowlers.
Posted by: bluesman_vt_2002

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/06/09 01:59 PM

Mark Roth - Hands down. Met him when I was late teens, early twenties. Awesome guy. Hung out and talked to me for over a half hour and he didn't have to. Just was a real personable guy.

Met Parker a couple years ago, autographed my ticket. Total class act.

Met WRW Jr, Doug Kent, Mitch Beasley, Riga Kalfas, TJ and Todd Book at a Pro Am last year. Doug Kent was funny as hell and Todd Book is an incredible bowler. He can throw the ball just as good left handed as right handed. Amazing, mirror shots.


Posted by: One Pin Standing

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/06/09 09:01 PM

Without a doubt.............Norm Duke. I'm a "Straighter is Greater" kind of bowler.........or at least trying to be.

My wife and I met Sean Rash at a clinic after we had been bowling for about a month. He is a nice guy..............didn't have a clue who he was at the time though.
Posted by: untutored

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/06/09 10:54 PM

I'm a fan of Mike Miller for obvious reasons, and I like WRW too, to see the end-over-end shot. (It surprises me that we don't see up-and-coming bowlers specializing in the end-over-end shot; the equipment is definitely evolving in that direction.)

Other than that, I usually wind up rooting for the underdogs, the junkballers and the late bloomers, the guys who aren't amazingly versatile and have to make difficult or creative adjustments. The other guys make it look too easy. smile
Posted by: Rack Wrecker

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/07/09 02:01 AM

Chris Barnes, hands down. I notice myself emulating a bit of his approach and release. However, the line he likes to play, that outside by the 5 board shot, is not my favorite. Of course, I don't typically play on the same sport patterns he does where such a shot can be done with his type of rev rate. On my THS his line would take him past Brooklyn, probably hitting somewhere in Maine! (Sorry, bad pun) As for the line I am starting to learn better, I tend to be liking the look of Tommy Jones. I find myself unable to create as many revs as him, which I'm not overly concerned about since my style is my style, so I end up playing in between Barnes' and Jones' typical lines. Also, my ball speed tends to be a bit on the lower side due to my lower backswing, (I'm slowly working on it) and that still allows me to play a deeper shot at times whereas following Barnes' up the 5 board line takes me off the map. But I still like to watch Chris Barnes' matches more than Tommy Jones' so.
Posted by: ringin 10

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/08/09 10:12 PM

My favorite all-time PBA bowlers are Brian Voss, Danny Wiseman, Walter Ray Williams, Parker Bohn III, Patrick Allen and Brad Angelo. maybe not in that exact order. I could have a list ten times as long
Posted by: Rack Wrecker

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/09/09 03:56 AM

Originally Posted By: ringin 10
My favorite all-time PBA bowlers are Brian Voss, Danny Wiseman, Walter Ray Williams, Parker Bohn III, Patrick Allen and Brad Angelo. maybe not in that exact order. I could have a list ten times as long


That is true, every one of the PBA bowlers are amazing in their own right. There is a reason they are the pros and I am not shooting against Walter Ray or Jason Couch, that's why they get paid the big bucks (though that has also been mentioned on this forum seeing as how the poor PBA bowlers are poor compared to other athletes). I'll save that money thought for one of the other threads crazy
Posted by: Steve

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/09/09 12:40 PM

I would have to say my top favs are Walter Ray, Norm Duke, Mike Wolfe, Tommy Jones, Wes Malot, And Parker Bohn. Maybe not in that order but as Rack mentiond its hard not to like them all since they are all pros and they all do things very well, i gues the biggest thing that stands out is a bowlers personality, and i totaly agree they are very under paid compared to other proffesioanl sports, and to those who say the reason for that is is because its not a real sport is because they have never bowled in a big tourny were you have to bowl six to nine games in a row and then come back for match play, These guys do it every week!
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/09/09 05:30 PM

Brian Voss (for the past 20 years since I first stated bowling seriously he has been my bowling idol). His flawless, classic form as well as his matinee-idol looks turned me on to this great sport, almost single-handedly.

Tommy Jones, the future of the PBA Tour, whom, I like to compare to Roger Federer in Tennis, with $1 million in earnings so far, as well as he is the fastest player to go between 1st and 10th titles, all that, and he is barely 30 years old yet.

Norm DUUUUUUUUUUUKE. (my late mother saw him once a few years back and thought the fans were "booing" him until I told her they were chanting his name), Grand Slam Champion and 15th player ever to bowl 300 on live TV (just down the road from me over in Tacoma at The Emerald Queen Casino). his low-maintenance swing and style haven't ever failed him over the past 25+ years he has been on Tour. Also, when Cindy Margolis and I were in High School together way back when, he became the youngest ever to win a PBA National Title (18 years old, 1983, Cleveland Open)!!!

And, of course, the best of all time, "Ol' Deadeye" himself, Walter Ray Williams Jr. $4+ Million in earnings and 45 Titles (so far), by far the most under-respected athlete in all of professional sports, I mean he should be classified and/or mentioned in the same vein as Tiger Woods, or Pete Sampras, instead of being "blown off" by mainstream media outlets as non-existant.
Posted by: Smooth Stroker

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/10/09 11:58 AM

My favorite is Pete Weber. I love his release, armswing, accuracy and ball reaction. It's effortless. I like the bowlers who don't look like they're putting all of their energy into each shot. Like they'll be worn out after one game ( Walter Ray ).

Top 5 current bowlers.

1) Pete Weber
2) Parker Bohn III
3) Norm Duke
4) Danny Wiseman
5) Michael Fagan

I like Walter Ray's intensity and focus. I just prefer the others for their bowling style. I'm into smooth.
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/10/09 01:02 PM

Pretty awesome 5-some, indeed those are some of the smoothest players currently on Tour, but you should also include Dave D'Entremont and also Wes Malott and Ken Simard as well as either alternates or wild cards in there, King Kranker (my nickname for Ken Simard), Double-D, and The Big Nasty all can get a ton on the ball yet make it look easy and so effortless when it comes to generating a high rev rate.
Posted by: Rack Wrecker

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/10/09 01:36 PM

Ken Simard is quite impressive. One of my new favorites for sure. And I have to comment on Norm Duke, in saying that he is very steady and pretty darn consistent. Definitely a fine bowler. I just seem something in his release that always makes me feel funny thinking about it...I can't quite put my finger on it but I think its the way he follows through on his shots and how his hand positions at the top of his follow through. It just looks a bit awkward to me in some ways, like I don't think it would feel very good to keep your hand that way. Like he keeps the hand and arm held up high on the follow through without letting it free fall back in the swing. I just personally think it feels better to let the hand flow off the ball and after the shot let it fall on its own volition as it may. Sort of a conclusive swing. Like loading up all the power of the ball and your release and then turning potential into kinetic and letting the arm discharge haha!
Posted by: Calvin Pistorio

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/10/09 01:49 PM

I think Norm finishes like that so that he can post his shot with no problem and watch the ball. Plus where you are finishes up at the top of the follow through can give you great insight on what you might have done wrong or right. Pete Weber is another one who finishes with his hand up in the air and his fingers usually pointing straight up with the whole hand straight. This is how it was done when they started bowling and apparently it works for them, even though we haven't seen much from Weber recently. Along with some of the others mentioned in Smooth's post, these guys make the game look effortless, with very little if any exaggerated or unneeded movements.
Posted by: Rack Wrecker

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/10/09 03:00 PM

I completely agree with the making the game look effortless and smooth comment. No question about it, those bowlers seem to just fluidly slide through their shot. I personally have left my hand in that poised form from time to time to better note what happened and how it happened but I do prefer to let the arm do its natural discharge still. However, I don't think this makes the bowler any less impressive and considering how every bowler has a certain individuality to their form and their shot (If you analyzed every bowler and picked apart every tiny part of their style and approach I doubt you'd find too many that had the exact same look, if any at all. Somethings are better kept to the books, so to speak, but there will always be something that speaks to that bowler specifically and not all other bowlers will do) I find it amazing that with all the different styles and variations, each bowler can still create the same end result with different setups. I guess its kind of like pitchers in baseball, where there are plenty of different styles and forms with a certain standardized pattern that is outlined in each form, but then varied slightly to match the player individually. Think of all the crazy looking forms that pitchers have compared to one another and think of bowlers doing the same thing. I like to watch people who aren't PBA members bowl just to see the differences in form. Youtube can be both a place to explore this and see some really... well... less than successful forms
Posted by: cowboybrad27

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/29/09 05:50 PM

I have not watched to many events because I am new to bowling. I DVR every chance I get though. So far my fav is Wes Mallott. I like his style or bowling and he seems to have a sense of humor.
Posted by: JedC

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/29/09 06:08 PM

I'll have to say Eugene McCune since CoachJim said my style reminds him of McCune's. I looked it up on Youtube and was pretty surprised at how similar we are, at least in terms of being horribly off-balance at the line and kinda falling off to the right. The intensity and lane personality were kinda similar too. So until I mail in the application, it'll be McCune. When I do mail it in, I'll change my favorite to me! :P
Posted by: Vic44

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/29/09 09:09 PM

My faves still actively bowling:
WRW Jr.
Chris Barnes
Petey
PB III
Sean Rash

Alltime Fave:
SIR Earl Anthony (RIP)

Thanks
Posted by: bowlerdawg

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/29/09 09:39 PM

fav for sure is maximum bob
i watched the tournament he won before he turned pro using a urethane ball, and whipped everybody
maybe he should have stayed w/ urethane
just a thought

guy i root for is WRW Jr.
want to see him win some more, and PDW, like to see him win some more majors

i like couch hope he makes a full recovery

i also like the cracken, and tony reyes
Posted by: Fgreco

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/30/09 12:53 AM

I would have to say Norm Duke is my favorite.
Posted by: Brandon510

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 01/30/09 02:11 AM

1. Tony Reyes (Home town Pro)
2. Parker Bohn III ( been watching him since i was kid)
3. Wes Malott
4. Pete Weber
5. Tommy Jones
Posted by: KleenStriker300

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/01/09 04:46 PM

I can give you my top 5 anyway:
1. Norm Duke
2. Brian Voss
3. Tommy Jones
4. Walter Ray Williams, Jr.
5. Sean Rash
Posted by: LostinSpace

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/01/09 09:26 PM

David Ozio
Posted by: beefers1

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 03:36 AM

My top 5 (in no particular order):

Parker Bohn III (IMO, best lefty ever)
Jason Couch (haven't seen him much lately, though)
Andrew Cain (I know, he's only made 1 show, but he has an awesome blog)
Patrick Allen (don't know why a lot of people hate him)
Walter Ray Williams, Jr (indisputably the best of all-time, though ESPN seems to disagree with me).
Posted by: Jay R.

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 04:38 AM

I posted on this on the first page but I'd like to say my top five

Norm Duke
David Ozio
Mike Machuga
Patrick Allen
Wes Malott

I didn't care much for Malott until this year, he's just more likeable to me now for some reason. Duke, Ozio, and Machuga have picture perfect physical games in my opinion. I don't know what it is about PA, just gotta like him. His style is a little unique and he's entertaining. If the list were to go on, Parker would be up there too.
Posted by: cgeorg

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 08:56 AM

beefers1, ESPN did not do that vote, the PBA did. And, it's not indisputable, as the debate continues to roll.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 09:11 AM

At my age, all of my favorites are DEAD. I do really like PBIII though.
Posted by: General Pounder

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 10:04 AM

My favorite to watch of all time is Earl Anthony. He was so smooth and so consistent. His whole style was so effortless. He is the reason I started bowling.

Hard to compare what he did and what Walter did to each other. Different eras.
Posted by: Chubbs

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: General Pounder
My favorite to watch of all time is Earl Anthony. He was so smooth and so consistent. His whole style was so effortless. He is the reason I started bowling.

Hard to compare what he did and what Walter did to each other. Different eras.


Ditto on both counts, GP.
Posted by: beefers1

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: cgeorg
beefers1, ESPN did not do that vote, the PBA did. And, it's not indisputable, as the debate continues to roll.


I know, but it was them who announced it. As for WRW< "indisputable" was in my opinion. I know it's still heavily debated.

George Lambert IV also deserves an honorable mention on my list.
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: beefers1
George Lambert IV also deserves an honorable mention on my list.


GL4, yet another Wichita State product, graced for immediate success (as all former Wheat Shockers are when they go out on Tour), if and when he gets his Tour card this season's Tour Trials.

Oh yes, the list goes on and on,

Sean Rash
Rick Steelsmith
Chris Barnes
Lonnie Waliczek
Justin Hromek
Patrick Healey Jr. (miss him)


All great PBA champions, all tutored by Wichita State.
Posted by: beefers1

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 08:37 PM

Well, he's Canadian, which was the reason for the honorable mention. Though he did make a TV show once, I'm not sure about whether he'll be very successful. Too many athletes have had high hopes and great rookie seasons only to fall into mediocracy later in their careers.
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 09:38 PM

I know he made a show, and that his TV appearance was the 2005 USBC Masters, and he did pretty well on that show. As for him being Canadian, I do remember that both Bill Rowe (04-05) and Patrick Gerard (06-07), both were former exempt players at one time, and they have a lot of great talent north of the 49th, although I know the Big Game up there is 5-pins (more 5-pin centers than those for 10-pins) as opposed to 10-pins (I have watched Championship 5-pin Bowling on CBC back when I had cable before seitching to a satellite dish years ago), so I expect GL4 to be the third ever exempt Canadian player after his Wichita State days are all said and done. He has that kind of potential, I hope to see him on the leaderboard on PBA.com during the Tour Trials.
Posted by: JaredB

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 09:40 PM

Parker Bohn III
Posted by: Fgreco

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/04/09 10:18 PM

Sean Rash and Chris Barnes are really good also But, like I said Norm Duke is my favorite.

It sucks because I bowl when bowling is on TV. I never get to see it frown
Posted by: sk8shorty01

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/05/09 09:59 AM

For those GL4 fans, he is 12th after round two of qualifying for the [censored] Weber Open... Just thought I would bring that up.
Posted by: cowboybrad27

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/05/09 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Fgreco
It sucks because I bowl when bowling is on TV. I never get to see it frown


I DVR every Sunday then watch it when I get a chance.
Posted by: beefers1

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/05/09 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: sk8shorty01
For those GL4 fans, he is 12th after round two of qualifying for the [censored] Weber Open... Just thought I would bring that up.


Hopefully he'll at least advance through a couple rounds of match play. It's too bad to see Andrew Cain missing the cut, since this tournament is generally one of his better ones (in 2007 this was his ever PBA event and he made the show).
Posted by: sk8shorty01

Re: Your favorite PBA bowler - 02/06/09 12:45 PM

I also DVR the finals and watch the entire thing. I will also watch the shots the players do not like at 1/2 speed and see if I can pick up anything different in their approach, release, follow through or whatever. It has really helped me to diagnose my own game.