Will there be a U.S. Open this year???

Posted by: BIGHMW

Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/01/14 08:41 PM

I was just wondering if there will be a U.S. Open, I heard it was scrapped because of the incompetence of the powers that be of both PBA and the BPAA. Is this true? Will Wes Malott and Liz Johnson, the players who each the Men'a and Women's U.S. Open titles last year even get a chance to defend their titles???

ESPN needs to sell the PBA, I suggest to Vince McMahon, who turned his late father's fledgling Northeast-based promotion known then as the WWF from an unknown to a multi-billion-dollar global empire in which the WWE is today, I believe that HE would provide better ownership for the PBA than ESPN and the current owners ever could.

Plus, he can get us a better time slot for us that would be far better for the long-term health of the PBA rather than the current time slots they have right now, going up against the NFL and tape-delayed events like they have on cheap third-tier cable channels (like CBS Sports Network is) that hardly anyone even knows exists and that carriers may not have.

Also, Vince can cross-market and bring awareness to the PBA through WWE programming and the PBA can market the WWE shows and PPV events on PBA programming as well. Also, he can bring more attention to our great sport and the top level of it to the very same masses who watch WWE RAW and other WWE shows by having PBA stars make appearances on shows like Raw, SmackDown!, and Main Event, and have WWE Superstars on sets of PBA telecasts during the year.

I know all this sounds ridiculous, but anything to save the Association and the Tour from the turmoil, financial debt and lack of brand recognition that just might force the PBA to cease operations altogether.
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/01/14 11:37 PM

Originally Posted By: BIGHMW
I know all this sounds ridiculous, but anything to save the Association and the Tour from the turmoil, financial debt and lack of brand recognition that just might force the PBA to cease operations altogether.


Here is what I was talking about a few years ago about tis very same subject:

http://www.bowlingcommunity.com/b/ubbthreads.php/topics/170821/PREDICTION:_The_PBA_will_cease.html#Post170821
Posted by: Fin09

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/02/14 10:51 AM

I believe since the PBA was re-aligning its season to run from January through December, this year will end a season that began part-way through 2013, and included the 2013 US Open. For this reason, I believe, there will be no 2014 US Open. Wes and Liz will get to defend their titles at the 2015 Open, however. The BPAA took over the US Open in 2013, and from what I understand, did a terrible job in handling the event. This is the most difficult event to win (which is one of the only props I give PDW, since he's won 5 of these), and easily one of the most prestigious, so to botch it is inexcusable.

I know your point was to find owners who could promote the sport better than the current ones, but to their credit, bowling is just not as marketable as it once was. No amount of fireworks, loud music, and over the top trash talk is going to make the PBA the WWE. Even the WWE has seen ratings drop in recent years, and most people believe the MMA events have been the reason. Many viewers are turning the channel to watch actual fights, and not the staged matches that wrestling provides.
The marketing firm that the PBA employed for several years also had the UFC as a client, and they were able to market that organization efficiently. You can't just cross-market all of your clients, however. You have to get the two organizations to agree to help each other out, and I don't see the UFC offering to advertise for the PBA. Completely different image, and nothing that would help the UFC in any way.
Posted by: champ

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/02/14 01:33 PM

I think I've said here numerous times that I'm a huge track and field fan. In many ways, track and bowling are in the exact same boat.

In the 70s, track was huge, people went to professional meets, and some of the American stars were household names. People knew Frank Shorter, Gerry Lindgren, Jim Ryun, Craig Virgin, etc. When Steve Prefontaine died, there was an official, National Day of Mourning in his honor.

Nowadays, no one other than fans watch track on TV (unless its the Olympics AND Usain Bolt is running.) Most Americans don't know Galen Rupp, Bernard Lagat, Evan Jager, or Matt Centrowitz and have no idea that American track and field is having a huge global resurgence in the last five years.

Track fans bemoan the death of the sport, the fact that pros struggle to make a living, and the lack of respect from the public They rattle off ideas on how to make for better tv, and how European track meets are still a very lucrative event.

The fact is, the American TV viewership isn't interested. The reason wrestling took off in the form of WWE is because of the soap opera element mixed with action and drama. If you did that to bowling, you'd never hear the end of the whining from the fans. And guess what...the WWE killed Pro Boxing, and MMA is killing the WWE. All things have a time and place, and the PBA's has come and gone.

And its looking like golf's golden age may soon be coming to an end as well too. When Tiger isn't golfing well, people don't tune in, ratings are bad, sponsors get nervous, and the galleries get much smaller. Once he's done, so is golf. Tiger single handedly turned golf into the MAJOR money machine it is today; the purses, gate sales, and viewer rating were nothing like they are today pre-tiger.

Its getting to the point that the NFL is so big, there may not be room for much else sometime soon. The NFL draft is NOT good tv, yet it somehow draws better viewer rating than a lot of NBA post season games. Its absurd.

Bottom line...there is no science to it. There is no way to know what will be a hit and what won't. And most importantly, when you're done, you're done. The PBA would be best off trying to figure out a way to get decent purse sizes without being on tv. It can be done. The internet is no longer the future, it is the now, and just like newspapers, someday soon the tv will we extinct.
Posted by: champ

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/03/14 05:50 PM

And here's the sad, sad news that there will be no 2015 US Open. http://bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=59827

Perhaps its time that someone else take over the moniker, and run their own US Open.
Posted by: SteveH

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/03/14 06:00 PM

That's extremely sad. Just saw it on FB.
Posted by: SteveH

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/03/14 07:04 PM

Rising to the occasion.

Quote:
To BPAA and their partners,

I read that you have canceled your premier event the US Open for not only in 2014, but now in 2015 (and who knows for which other coming years).
I am disappointed and frustrated to hear that as such as a huge leader within the industry you have given up in making this event happen.
With the US Open comes tradition, history and it's BPAA's way to say we are committed to the competitive side to bowling.
I know how hard playing the sponsors game is, I am certainly not suggesting you have done nothing to obtain the money needed to run the Open.....what I am saying is that not yet even 6 months into 2014, you have GIVEN UP on the event for 2015.
As a collective group you have given up for the bowlers and for bowling fans and for the SPORT of bowling itself. You ask bowlers to come into your centres and support you, well now we the players are asking you the BPAA to find a find to give us our premier event and support us!
If you would be interested in reopening the possibility of running the US OPEN again, please DO NOT HESITATE to contact me and I am willing to do what I can to help get the 2015 US OPEN back on for the bowlers AND for bowling fans around the world.

Yours in bowling

Jason Belmonte
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 01:03 AM

Way to go Belmo! I too, much like you, want to see the great SPORT of bowling make it in this time and age. I know how hard it has been for either the PBA or the USBC to obtain non-bowling industry sponsors, and I was hoping that there would've been a U.S. Open this year, but with the news of the bomb-dropping of both this year's and next year's events, I am beginning to believe more and more that our great sport (at least as a professional level) is doomed here in the U.S..

If the money truly is better to bowl over in Europe than more power to all of you guys (and gals) to make the trip across the pond so all of you can maintain your professional status as ATHLETES, in which we bowlers are, and still be able to pay the bills.

...and another thing, if the PBA really is going to shorten up its schedule and tighten its wallet, they should just scrap TV altogether and simply broadcast the events LIVE exclusively on their Xtra Frame service, I'll be willing to pay to get it (once I move into a new household like tentatively planned for August 31st), hey, it's either that or the WWE Network, which also is a web/smart-phone-app only service, but the guys here at this board all think (and I'm beginning to agree with most of them) that the internet is both the now and the future, hey, if we can download Cindy Margolis from it, then why can't we watch Xtra Frame???

Cable and Satellite Television will soon go by the way of the buffalo, much like "rabbit-ears" free OTA TV (and radio) already has, and if the PBA and the USBC don't get their heads out of their collective duffs, we will soon lose our sport and our lane heroes too. CANCEL your TV contracts with those third tier networks such as CBSSN and poor time slots like on ESPN and just go exclusively LIVE ONLINE on Xtra Frame, The future is NOW!!! The WWE did it with the WWE Network, why can't you???
Posted by: Joe Bowler

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 04:38 AM

No U.S. Open in 2014 was bad enough news. But, to plan not having a U.S. Open in 2015 is a tragedy of epic proportions. Heads should roll for such negative thinking. What next, a government bailout?
Posted by: SteveH

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 09:03 AM

So they estimate 70 million people bowl at least once a year. That's a pretty wide demographic as well. Advertisers want the 18-35 group, well, they're there too.

Car makers. Hotel Chains. Restaurants. Soda, beer, airlines, Home Depot, Lowes, Amazon.Com.

The U.S. Open Sponsored by _____________

You have some celebrities that own teams in the PBA League. How about Lucky Strike?

How about NASCAR?


The bowling audience is a pretty huge demographic, and certainly fits well inside the other pro and amateur sports as well. I think the BPAA is probably the wrong organization to head this, but reasons for prior failures by others should be looked at.
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 10:25 AM

Originally Posted By: SteveH


The U.S. Open Sponsored by _____________

The bowling audience is a pretty huge demographic, and certainly fits well inside the other pro and amateur sports as well. I think the BPAA is probably the wrong organization to head this, but reasons for prior failures by others should be looked at.


To fill in the blank, it would be (if I was running the BPAA)

The U.S. Open "Downloaded by CindyMargolis.com"

I know, you're all gonna say that I have a huge hang-up with Cindy Margolis, but hey, that's what you get when you have the almost-exclusive bragging rights to say you went to high school (Erikson Center) and graduated with her in 1984

I also know you're all gonna say that isn't Cindy Margolis a washed-up, desperate has-been whose prime was back in the 1990's and that she's well past that and is no longer even a blip of the modeling radar, but, right about now the PBA/USBC/BPAA might as well try ANYTHING to save our sport.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 10:29 AM

Overall national TV sports advertising spent $10.9 billion with the top advertiser spending 423 million and the PBA cannot find a company to sponsor the US OPEN events at a cost of less than 1 million? The money is out there.
Posted by: SteveH

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 11:13 AM

I agree with you BOSS, no question we're talking small money here. But in the interest of also thinking longer-term, it would behoove the interested parties to rethink their ties to the BPAA, and take a hard look at how the USBC runs things.

http://www.bowl.com/benefitsposter/

Lots of money there. Perhaps they can discuss things with their counterparts at the USGA. Surely there would be some input from BowlU, and other very interested parties within the sport.
Posted by: champ

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/04/14 04:38 PM

Piggy-backing off a few posts here, including Belmo's response to the BPAA...

I completely agree that it is a total failure that BPAA is already throwing in the towel on 2015. I understand that pro bowling may not be a ratings magnet, but I can not believe that BPAA can not find a core of sponsors to chip in. This is one of the most storied and revered tournaments in pro bowling, and there are hundreds of sponsors that would fit well as a "bowling sponsor."

They're either not trying hard enough through incompetence on their staff, or they're not trying hard enough because they want to get away from pro bowling, shift their image and focus, and just aren't being forward about their intentions.

Either way, they just aren't trying hard enough. Pathetic.
Posted by: Fin09

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/05/14 10:46 AM

As it was mentioned above, approximately 70 million people bowl in the US at least once per year, making bowling one of (if not THE) biggest participation sports in the world. But, fewer than 2 million of those bowl in leagues, and maybe 10-20% of them watch bowling on TV. This is why advertisers don't throw money at bowling. They get no exposure for their money. Even Geico, who has been probably the biggest sponsor of the tour these last several years, spends a lot more on their NASCAR team and other sports than they do on bowling. We have to make the sport attractive to sponsors, not just to the public, and the only way to do that is to show them they'll get a return on their investment. With the way the sport is in decline, that's an awfully tough sell for anyone. I have been in sales for a long time, and I've been tasked with selling products and services that many people didn't think they needed or wanted. Showing them the value in a product or service was the only way they would buy, and there really isn't much of a value in sponsoring the tour these days.
The folks on here all watch the tour when it's on TV- that's pretty safe to say. Broadcasting the tour costs the PBA a lot of money, and it would probably be in the best interest of the tour to go dark for awhile, since production costs of the show eat up a lot of money that could be paid out to the winners. They already hold the World Series of Bowling in one venue to save on travel costs for the players and production team. We may tire of seeing the same people in the front row for weeks at a time, but without making this decision a few years ago, there wouldn't be a tour.
As far as the BPAA goes, I can't understand why they'd pull the plug on the 2015 Open. This tournament gets 400+ entries every year. They can't pull this together? Shame. I imagine someone could run this outside of the BPAA and keep it going.
Posted by: Joe Bowler

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/07/14 07:39 AM

Just wondering if canceling the 2015 U.S. Open so far in advance is a ploy to see what would happen and attract attention to the sport of bowling? Will somebody step up and bail out this event?
Posted by: Fin09

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/07/14 10:41 AM

I sure hope so- it does give whoever might bail this event out plenty of time to arrange it.
Posted by: vdubtx

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/07/14 03:12 PM

Also, I would think the party(ies) that may bail out the US Open would have a ton of positivity created and garnered towards them from the bowling community and athletes alike.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/10/14 11:12 AM


USBC, BPAA reach deal to save U.S. Opens

http://www.11thframe.com/news/article/6637
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/10/14 11:20 AM

Boss beat me to it but bowl.com also has a writeup. Only thing that's missing is TV coverage, but hopefully the PBA will be able to help in that area. Either way this is great news.

http://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622321774
Posted by: BIGHMW

Re: Will there be a U.S. Open this year??? - 05/10/14 04:54 PM

That's good news that there will be a U.S. Open for (at least) the next three years, but, the damage may already have been done, with no Open for 2014 this smells more like the bowling equivalent of the big-bank/AIG bailout of 2008, and that smelled fishy at that, so we only hope that this fix will be temporary and that all involved parties (PBA/USBC/BPAA) will work together to not only provide for this, but also, to save whatever is left of the PBA.

Tom Clark has been an incompetent commissioner, not only not being able to secure a sponsor for more than 1-2 years tops for its own events and also with the either unannounced or ever-shrinking "prize funds" for pretty much all of its events because the amount is too embarassingly low to admit on the air. Hopefully the PBA can actually afford to televise its events LIVE instead of going up against the NFL on Sundays with events that are taped well in advance and with the only commercial airtime being taken up either by the bowling industry or "As Seen On TV".

We still need to repair the image of not only our great sport but also the top level of it as far as it's presentation to the general public is concerned. The PBA already has a great thing going with the official player jerseys built first by Gemini from 2008-2013 and now by High 5 Gear for the next five years and now that all of us can get the very same shirts our lane heroes proudly wear, I think High 5 Gear should buy commercial airtime and/or rotational ad signage during telecasts and the PBA should use a link to High 5 Gear's site on its website to let fans know they can "look like the pros" so to speak. Imagine grade school kids wearing PDW or Belmo or Sean Rash jerseys to class, this could the next pair of Air Jordans or the next Starter Jacket we can perhaps see abundantly on the streets real soon, but only if all of us and those involved in the industry cooperate to make this happen.

I'm a bowler and a bowling fan and I am proud of both, and yes, to answer the pending question, yes, we are indeed athletes too!!!