Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread

Posted by: Richie V.

Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/16/18 01:06 PM

About time to get the new season going. Post about your fall/winter leagues here, including your scores, if you wish.

I should at least be back in my Wednesday league, with my Sunday league depending on my finances. I was close to it last year, so 180 average might be a goal I'm shooting for.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/22/18 10:38 AM

Practiced yesterday. Bowled all Summer on a very easy house shot. So yesterday, met some friends to practice.

The house laid the normal league shot down. My friends were amazed how slick it was. I, on the other hand, found it to my liking. As others slid their reactive balls past the target, I routinely rolled pocket hit after pocket hit with my Hybrid.

I guess the Summer practice I did did work. Release was smooth, no force, ball came off my fingers easily, full extension and great slide, and the ball had a great roll.

That push out to the dry in the right corner paid dividends. My Hybrid ball had 12 boards of movement in the final 15 feet. From the 5 board to the pocket.

My leagues start after Labor day.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/22/18 01:37 PM

League meeting on Friday, we start the 7th of September. Going to be an interesting year, I hope the state of the league is OK in terms of # of bowlers. Our president and secretary are not returning to bowl and I'm pretty sure a few other bowlers are not coming back from what I have heard. One of my teammates is now the president and the wife of one of my other teammates is now the secretary.

I've been practicing nearly every week. Going to go on Sunday morning with my wife and meet some friends to bowl with them. I'd been bowling solo all summer and trying to not bowl at too fast of a pace. It will be nice to have other people on the lanes with me so I will have to wait, hopefully it eases me back to league pacing.

Mark
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/23/18 08:50 AM

I am joining a 4 person league in my home house, because the singles league I bowl in is moving from my home house back the the amf place it was in when I joined, over a decade ago. I will bowl the singles, but, I already told the secretary I didn't know if it would go beyond this season, because I so despise the way amf treats bowlers that I really get negative even walking into their establishments. I will be joining back up with the senior travel league (if it goes - trouble getting participants). Every other week, some competitive bowlers, but mostly a funsy league anymore.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/25/18 05:32 PM

Really looking forward to this season. Doing 3 leagues this year. Reluctantly returning to Sunday night at Blowmor but wanted to bowl with a couple of friends that I've bowled with for the past 5 years or so and this is the only night they can do and the only center within reasonable driving distance for all of us. So just going to treat that one as a fun night out and try to not put any undue pressure on myself.

My other two leagues are good competitive leagues in two other centers. Competitive handicap format on Wednesdays and a scratch league on Thursdays. Both on a little bit more challenging than a THS (7:1 and 9:1 respectively) which I like. Also the lineage is quite good at these centers. $9.50 at one, $11 at the other. Sec/treasurer only taking $.50 per bowler (used to that fee being $1 along with $13.50-$14 lineage). Also the scratch league has a sponsor adding $2,000 to the prize fund.

Not putting any average/honor score goals on myself this season. The goal is to throw the ball consistently well and make the right adjustments. I improved my release over the summer and I'm seeing results in pin carry but the consistency isn't quite there yet so not going to get discouraged if I don't come out of the gate shooting telephone numbers.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/25/18 05:41 PM

Went to practice today. 2 balls and i walked off the lane.

Was told, they don't oil unless there is a league. And, hasn't been a league since thursday. I was also told to adjust with my 25 board hook. I asked why? As I never see this condition anywhere else.

Oh, another new house rule. The Center will open at 4 every day. Even on league nites. That shuts out the seniors who come daily to bowl.

This place sucks more and more. Oh, but the walls got painted. And, by the lane man. All while 3 lanes are down for repair.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/27/18 08:04 PM

well I'm back...I got roped into a league again, been a decade since I played. Bought a house in 09 and had to cut some budgets for it. Now I'm back and my balls are 10-12yrs old but not cracked.

5 man team handicap league, most heavy hitters are there and guess most will be 210 and up. Old ave at this house was 204 so should be interesting if I can get back up to speed in a couple of weeks.

My kinetic is pretty shot up and needs to be replaced, the Storm dim is drilled for oil and never saw much use. There still seems to be life left in it til it gets replaced with modern version, it still rolls out strong if I don't over crank on it. Looking at get a new "A" ball, long and strong backend movement if I can do my part, 5" from pap. Storm Intence Fire, BlackWidow black n golds on the short list. Never shot w/ a hybrid before so will be learning curve.

I need to measure my rev rates and speed on the next practice night. Take that bit of info when I order a ball later this week.

practiced 2 game sets between my kids bowling 3/5yo
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/28/18 01:24 AM

WB and good luck.

PS: It's like riding a bike
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/28/18 02:19 AM

thanks! body mechanics feel almost the same, almost like I never stopped, until I have to throw spare balls. I just have to remember how to read the lanes as they break down and I break down. I don't have the endurance to bowl many sets in one night anymore. This house breaks down faster then others and I'm always chasing the solid 10 pin here. Such is life, maybe a new ball will help.

We have league meeting tomorrow nite for sign up and see how much of a punching bag we'll be. Plan is to throw a couple of sets with team, have the pro shop measure my pap cuz I can't remember it. 5 1/4 over 3/8" or something close to that. League starts day after Labor day. Kinda nervous of how bad I'm going to suck HAHA
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 08/30/18 11:13 PM

Welcome back to bowling smile

Week 1 in the books for me. Not exactly the start I wanted to get off to in either one. Started out last night being hot and humid both outside and inside the bowling center and just did not have a good look on a shot I've been practicing on all summer. A lot of over/under and ended up shooting 530.

Tonight in the scratch league had an even worse shot. I was a little more prepared and brought a few extra balls for different things I might run into (also hadn't bowled at this particular house all summer so didn't know what to expect really). But I was really was not at all expecting a shot where you couldn't lay it down anywhere outside of the 12 board without it taking off. So had no choice but to move in and my Ridiculous Asym kept me in the pocket most of the night and I actually was on point with my spare shooting. Got out of there with 193, 204, 211 for 608, but bowling anchor that was not good enough. Opponent shot 739 and really the only chance I had to take a point off of him was in the last game. If I had struck in the 9th, 10th, and 11th I would have locked him out but instead ringing 7 in the 9th and 8 pin in the 10th and instead of a possible game in the 240s merely snuck into the two-teens.

Long season ahead, not going to get too discouraged. Last year I definitely peaked early in the season and the whole 2nd half was a huge letdown so the goal this time is to get better as the season progresses.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/01/18 06:23 AM

Our fall league has changed it's format. I was skeptical at first but I think I am going to like it. It's like a normal league but with a side pot. Each bowler pays $14. $5 goes to lineage, $6 to prize fund, and $3 goes the side pot. Each week all teams are bowling against the House team series for the side pot.The teams that beat the house split the pot for that week. First week 4 teams beat the house and $57 was added to their pot earnings that will be distributed at the end of the year. A good start to the year. Our team is 14-0 and beat the house in week 1 and 2.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/01/18 02:25 PM

Interesting concept. But, I haven't heard of $5 lineage in years.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/01/18 03:09 PM

Dennis,
Lineage on other leagues at the center is around $11. This is the only league with a reduced rate that I know of.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/04/18 06:55 PM

Senior league started today. Lanes were really screwy. Said they oiled last nite, but IDK how much use after oiling. Prob was before a league.

Well, the rest of the house leagues started last week, and the Asst Mgr said ev one complained about the shot. So, the reg Mgr and the laneman and another lane guy form another center were adjusting the oiler and reoiled the first 10 lanes.

Then, there was the weirdest thing I ever saw. The 3 of them were trying out the oil pattern. Hahaha, if they only had someone who knew how to bowl, they could tell.

Watched a dozen balls by the 3 and no one came close to the pocket. Just what did that prove? Was the oil bad, or do they all suck?

Had words with the Reg Mgr. Asked him why he is chasing all leagues out of the center. He asked what I meant. Told him to count heads in league. Mon mens went from 32 teams to 18. Thurs men's went from 22 teams to 10. Saturday leagues left the house. Mixed leagues disbanded. WTH, and he can't see that???

Went from 2 nights of double shift and leagues on all other nights, to only 4 nites with leagues.

And, this was the Brunswick Flagship Center. Only a few miles from the Corporate office. Top 10 grossing Brunswick center in the Country. New lanes, new machines. Where they brought people to visit, and hosted 2-3 PBA tourneys a year. Now, its' virtually not used.

But, the Senior league grew by 4 teams. At the expense of the Ladies league which won't bowl there because they changed the hours on Tues and Thurs to open late. The ladies used to bowl at 9 am, but the center opens at 11.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/05/18 01:01 AM

meh type of night, no consistency, felt lost. 189, 246, 171 = 606
Last game left a mess a buckets and splits hitting light, changed balls and played inside and limited the damages of 4 open frames to start the game. Frustrating after rolling a decent game before it.

202 ave for the night. I'll practice again this weekend. Guess not too horrible start after 10yr break
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/06/18 02:20 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I want to attribute this to summer rust, but my second game was better because of my spare game, and my double in the third game capitalized on a Brooklyn strike.

Result: 124-171-157=452
Average (3 games): 150
Next week's AVG+1 score: 454

Si was steady, and Steve put together a four-bagger third game to help us. We won't know about points until the first standings update.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/07/18 12:37 AM

Last night 206, 210, 181. Really struggled with carry. The good news is my teammates picked me up and we took 22 out of 26.

Tonight got to my scratch league they had trouble with the AC and the approaches were pretty bad. Couldn't really slide at all and I was tentative the first game but did strike out 9th and 10th to salvage a 209. Second game improved to 217, clean game with only single pin leaves.

Third game started stringing them and had a chance to go off the sheet for 259. The anchor on the other team had a chance to go out for 265 which would be good enough for him to take total off of me as well. I got up and struck in the 10th and he left a flat 10. So the opening was there and I buried the 2nd shot. 8 on the last ball was good enough to take it and we won grand total by 3 pins too. Effectively a 5 point ball there and we ended up winning 15-10.

So 683 but really happy with the bounceback after last night and week 1. Made a change to going back to the side of the ball instead of trying to roll from behind it after listening to Mo Pinel's talk today (which Boss posted a link to in the other thread). Carry was much better.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/11/18 06:17 PM

love those games where it comes down to the 10th on the last game

good scores!
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/12/18 04:59 PM

had a rough night, ringing 10pins all night and few splits. 538 last night with high of 190 on last game. Will drop my ave from 202 to 190 for next week.

Good note. I was working allot on working my swing to be more free flowing, before I was bending my elbow allot, cradling it to much and using my arm to get speed/revs. This was also working my lower back. I'm able to swing a hint higher and unwind my release to generate some good revs and be sorta consistent at it.

Since the beginning of time, I always had my right foot half step forward for dot placement, as for me it helped line up my arm swing to aim. not a problem until I start having to play around the 18bd at the arrows, I can't open my hips/shoulder up enough to get the body angle I need to project the ball out playing that deep. Will have to make a practice day this week to work on the foot game.

I had to put in $5 into the team bad bowler's pot. $1 for each sub 200 score and 50cent for each spare missed that isn't a split.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/13/18 02:29 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

This was a little better than last week, so baby steps, I guess. The difference was probably one more made spare than last week.

Result: 152-171-146=469
Average (3 games): 153
Next week's AVG+1 score: 465

Si had a 513 night, and we won the second game against a tough opponent; that was the only point for us, however.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/14/18 05:19 PM

looks like my pap changed. now it's 5" up 1/2" was 5.25" up 3.8" a decade ago

Got the mapped layout of my old kinetic with the new PAP
60*/3.75"/28* and tons of flare

Based of that my storm dimension lost n inch too so is 3" from pap to pin and would explain why its rolling out so soon and real hard to get length down range.

I'm getting the Hammer Black n Gold drilled
50*/4.75"/35*
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/15/18 08:39 AM

Two weeks into this season and I have no clue what I will find next week in league. I was practicing over the summer on a morning after a trio league bowled the night before on a fresh shot. The lanes were consistent and really weren't broken down that much. I had also gone one Sunday morning on the fresh right before the season started and they played just a few boards weaker just like I thought they would.

The first week of league, they started on the fresh like I expected, but broke down drastically by the early part of the second game. I ended up switching to the Critical Mass from the Vintage Zone and was able to bowl well enough the third game to shoot a 611 after being under a 600 pace going into the last game. I ended the night playing deeper with the Critical Mass that I had all summer.

At the second night of league last night, I noticed right away from myself and everyone else that they were hooking like the ball hit a brick wall. Any miss slightly to the right or a touch slow was taking a nosedive and a lot of fun splits were left (multiple 3-4 combos from rightys). My first game was marred by two splits, one in the 10th that hurt my start to the night. I decided that resin was too much, so I switched to my Turbo to start the 2nd game. I underestimated how much it would hook and left a split right away with it. I moved in a little after that and found the line. I mostly kept up with transitions as they broke down and got up to a 614 for the night. I ended up playing near 3rd arrow with the Turbo by the end of the night. The last shot of the night I thought I had swung out too much and it roared back high flush.

My big positive is that my only missed spares through 6 games were splits, a 3-6-10, and a 3-6-9-10. The negative is I have no idea what ball to use next week. If the lanes stay the way they were last night, I'm thinking that I'll see a lot of use out of my Turbo. I might take it out first and if I can play a line around or slightly inside 2nd arrow on the fresh, I'm going to assume anything reactive will do the same thing it did last night.

Mark

Mark
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/16/18 10:58 PM

Originally Posted By: jsigone
love those games where it comes down to the 10th on the last game

good scores!

Thanks, looks like you are making some good progress yourself. The high scores will come.

Unfortunately for me wasn't able to parlay that victory into much. Bowled 2 tournaments last weekend and did decent but missed the cut by 16 pins in one and about 30 in the other. Just couldn't put enough strikes together. Sunday night shot a decent 662 to open that league and then started Wednesday with 220 but went downhill after that and fell shy of 600 with a 594.

Thursday opened with a 226 but really needed to carry a 2nd strike in the 10th to take my point and instead left a ringing 7. The rest of the night really struggled. Three straight splits in the 2nd game and the 3rd wasn't much better (164, 179). Tonight went 194, 232, 214 for a respectable 640. Got a DV8 Alley Cat on the way which will hopefully help with some of the transition and over/under I've been dealing with in all of my leagues.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/19/18 01:47 AM

another MEH night, lanes was broken down from the previous league and I think there was 2 times I had oil on the ball cuz I shanked it so far inside I should have been a lefty HAHA

148 with 4 opens eek, 2 were splits, 2 were bad spare pick ups
213 got some love and linked some Xs together
187 struggled with carry front half and picked up some luck on the back end.

There were 4 hammer black n golds on the rack, all playing the almost same lines on the break.

I had a few burn out throw and the ball broke, then flattened out to a zig zage before hitting pocket. I really need to practice my aim and swing better. 548 for the set. Hope I can get better next week. Ave dropped 3 more pins to 187 for next week. we won only 1 game today
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/19/18 10:25 PM

we have been bowling well, but losing. As an example, my H2H opponent, with his 178 average; shot 279-244-232 against me. And, with his cap, there was no way I could win a game.

Our 4th and 5th bowlers both shot over 700, so we did do well, winning 25 of 36 points. Of course, I got skunked.

Our start was 0-3 games, 1-2 games but 3-0 this week.

My start is horrible and can't break 550. I keep telling myself, it's early.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/20/18 04:10 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

It took me three weeks, but I put a little something together last night, particularly when I paid more attention to my elbow position in my swing. Spare game might need work, but that could come around.

Result: 152-173-233=558
Average (9 games): 164
Next week's AVG+1 score: 501

Team didn't have a great night, but still took three of four (1st & 3rd games & total).
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/20/18 07:54 PM

Bowling tonite, and I don't think my knee will let me. It's real painful now.

Oh well, I'll try.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/21/18 12:10 AM

GL with your knee Dennis, hopefully you were able to bowl.

Last night was a struggle for me although I felt I threw the ball pretty well but went 182, 188, 204. Just didn't have the reaction I needed down the lane. Had a shiny Verdict and a Cash with a little bit of surface on it with a double thumb drilling. Verdict went too long down the lane and the Cash just didn't make the turn at the end. Tried to make adjustments with those balls to try and carry and made things worse before having an OK 3rd game. Despite my struggles I was able to take 3 out of my 4 points and the team actually split 13-13 despite losing total.

Got my Alley Cat today threw it in the scratch league. Lanes were better than last week I think due to the cooler weather we've been having. Didn't play as dry but still enough friction to throw my new ball. Started out with 257 but my opponent (a lefty cranker) shot 266 so I lost my point while our team actually took the other 5. Scores across the house were through the roof and the eliminator cut was 240. Second game had a chance to go off the sheet and shoot 257 again but just didn't quite get out of it cleanly and left a pocket 7-9. Shot 224 which was just enough to stay in the eliminator but my opponent took advantage of that opening and struck out for 227.

3rd game the transition hit my opponent while I only had to make small moves to stay in the pocket. However I was struggling to carry and had to settle for 191 but it was enough to split with my opponent who had a disastrous final game. Team took 14 out of 25.

Next week I'll be bowling in the 3rd position with our adjusted averages now taking effect and the lineup in this league being set by average (lowest to highest). Teammate is averaging 223 so far while I am at 211. Happy to cede it to him for now especially after only taking 5 of 16 points. I will be facing mostly low 200 average bowlers from the 3 spot.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/21/18 07:41 AM

Whelp.....the first session was a complete bust for me, as I wanted to throw balls that weren't conducive to the condition...THAT is on me. I missed the next four sessions (across 3 leagues) because I was out of town, but Wednesday night I did reasonable throwing nothing but my polished, urethane, spare ball. 170something, 160something, 230something ~ 565. Picked most of my easies [shrug]. I expect Saturday, at an AMF house, I will actually see some oil and be able to use my brandy new Radical Beyond Ridiculous! Or at least my also new Roto-grip Winner.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/22/18 08:17 AM

League was interesting last night, but not because of my bowling. The lanes were hooking a lot again this week and my plan to use my Turbo worked out well. 230,225,219 for a 674 and my only opens were two splits. 9 games in and I've not missed a single pin spare.

Our team took 5, but we were bowling against ourselves as the other team only had 1 regular bowler, two subs, and two blinds. Our league has added a legal lineup rule stating at least 2 regular bowlers must be present (subs do not count). This led towards a lot of confusion for the other team, additionally they weren't informed until the 2nd game. Then, the two subs were bowling for the first time this season and there was confusion with them understanding the sanction fee vs. paying league fees. One of them had subbed 5 weeks last season and never paid a sanction fee. Either the regular team member paid the fee for the sub or some stuff really fell through the cracks last season.

On top of that, we lost the 2nd game by missing 50 pins below our average by quite a bit. Right after bowling a 263 with 11 strikes and an open on a split, my anchor scraped the top of his middle finger by the fingernail on his locker quite badly. He struggled the 2nd game with skin patch on the finger, but it was bleeding too much and he had to use a band-aid on it. He tried bowling with only the ring finger and thumb (legal until Aug 1, 2020!), but he couldn't get comfortable. So, the last game he tried bowling with his thumb, pinky, and ring instead and shoots a 244. He wished he had tried that sooner and said he might try it again if he wants to straighten out his shot.

Mark
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/24/18 02:32 PM

I think I did mention that I'd be subbing on my Sunday Niters team instead of being a regular bowler, and my first opportunity to sub was last night, for Peter.

[url="http://www.bowlsk.com/games/view-series.html?series=5726499181166592]Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame[/url]

Back-to-back good nights, but a little more consistent last night. My biggest problem seemed to be chopping the 6-10, but I also only missed one single pin (a 10, but I didn't leave it often).

Result: 194-161-199=554
Average (3 games): 184
Next week's AVG+1 score: 556

Composite average (12 games): 169

If our anchor got the second hit in the 10th second game, it would have been all eight, but we had to settle for six.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/26/18 05:45 AM

Well, bowling didn't go well, this week. the knee is very painful in the slide, to the point that my body actually stops before it. That puts me off balance and in a worse finish position.

Without the knee bend, I can't slide, can't extend, and don't release properly. I have slowed down to under 12 mph, as I have noticed on the above monitor speed indicator. And, that makes my hook uncontrollable, at times. I fly right past single pin spares to the left. And, the 9 pin is the hardest pin for me. Missed it left, twice. Each time, the ball dove in the final 5+ feet.

In Sr League, I pulled out a Urethane ball to use. Actually, to practice instead of my regular balls. I just get no finish with it, leaving 11, 10 pins. Then, missing 5. All to the left, hooking my spare ball at 12 mph. I have to go back and practice killing my hook on right side spares.

All the things I have learned and practiced over the years are hurting me now. My release is strong, but too strong at this speed. I now have to change my release on spares, where I have tried to maintain the same release, just change balls. I can't slide and now have to plant. My steps are shorter affecting my timing.

I'm a mess!!!

But, I have to fix it, as I will hurt my teams.

Haha, I found a printout in my bag. Shows the night where I had 21 strikes in a row, the back 11 of game 1 and the front 10 in game 2. Now, I can't even get a Turkey. Heck, those 2 games are higher then my 3-game series now.

When I first hurt my knee (now over 7 years ago), I did bowl 2 years taking only 1-step and averaged 194. I may go back to that.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/27/18 03:45 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I had two decent games, but then seemed unable to stay right of the headpin, which was how I left the four spares I missed in the game. When my leaves were more reasonable, I usually made the spare.

Result: 192-174-145=511
Average (12 games): 165
Average for last 9 games: 170
Next week's AVG+1 score: 500

Composite average (15 games): 169
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/28/18 11:15 AM

Had a mediocre week. Sunday 235,215,203. Just not carrying well enough after the first game. Too many corner pins. Tried to adjust to hit the pocket higher midway through the 3rd and left a 6-8. Only open of the night. Team got swept too. Wednesday I had 213, 247, 191. Progress for this league considering the slow start but never had a good look after the first 4 frames. Started with my Pyramid Blood Moon Rising which gave me the first 4 but after that it just seemed like the ball just quit on me. Started reacting later and then not reacting at all. Can't believe my speed went up that much where it was that big of a difference. Switched to my Brute Strength which rolls earlier to get me through the rest of the night and found it for awhile in the 2nd game but by the 3rd felt like I had no room for error. Team took 17 out of 26

Last night 193, 234, 211. Bowling against the vacant team and in game 1 just got screwed on carry. Pins are in bad need of replacement in this center and the pair that we were on just seemed to have really bad ones. Can't rely on any light mixers and even some of the flush strikes don't carry if you didn't have enough angle. Needed just a mark in the 10th to win my point and I come in a little light and go pocket 7-10. Eliminator cut was 198 as well. Gross.

Second game I found it and shot clean 234 but in the 3rd pulled the first shot, left a split but managed to rebound enough to shoot 211. But striking was not as easy as last week (scores seemed to be down across the house as well from last week) Team took 22 out of 25 against the vacant which is a gimme game almost because you only have to bowl within 15 of your average to take your point so we cleaned up. Seems like a bad idea in a scratch league. Probably something that will come up in the meeting next year (last year they had an even amount of teams so this is new to the league as well) when not everyone gets to bowl the vacant.

Feel like I'm throwing it well but need a little bit stronger shot for the ball to get up and go through the pins. My spare shooting was actually really good this week going perfect on single pins and I feel like my release has been consistent. Time to go practice and work on it.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/28/18 01:57 PM

practice last week helped, I learned the new ball's shape and able to get a solid starting point for the beginning of the night. Shot well but opened/ split in the 10th of the first 2 games with multiple strikes leading in. Last game finished with 3 strikes. The black n gold slams the pocket but angle can get a bit steep. Leaving big splits or solid 9 and 10pins. Throwing at the arrows is 18 and breakpoint is 6-9bd. I can jam up the middle 9bd to carry if I up the speed to 16mph, 15 seems to be my happy spot right and swing out, problem is solid 9 or 10pin if it comes in too steep.

191, 199, 217 = 607 for the night. Should coulda been better. But was the first solid night I had so far since my come back. I feel like I'm in control of the ball n swing n speed now, where I was just hucking and praying before. Practice helps, repetition is the foundation
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 09/30/18 10:33 PM

Good stuff J, glad you got something out of your practice. Too many bowlers don't practice at all or practice without a purpose.

Had a good practice myself on Friday working on adjusting my release and finding something that worked. Had my high series of the season tonight. 238, 200, 257 for 695. Second game had a chance to go off the sheet and be in the 240s but in the 9th pulled a shot and left a 2,7,8 which resulted in my only open of the night. Other than that got much better ball reaction and had 10 strikes in the last game. Subbing in this center tomorrow so hoping to throw my first 7 of the season.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/03/18 12:10 PM

another poor night, shot 547. High game was 194 with the punch out in the 10th. Ave will dip from 191 to 189 next week

I'm thinking my black n gold hammer is too angular on the pocket leaving little wiggle room. That or the THS is playing like a sport for me. 3 guys threw 300s last night, one guy threw 289 and 280 first two games. He ended with 815
50* x 4 3/4" x 35* layout

Anytime I moved to try a different angle was leaving splits. If I stay where I was I'd leave solid 10pin all night. If I swing out and let it come back in off the 5-6bd, would leave solid 4s or 4/7s. If I played inside it would punch the face and leave back row splits

I'm still on out of box surface. Maybe I'll add some shine to get down a weee bit more and not loose energy.

game is so frustrating.....
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/04/18 02:44 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Most of my difficulty was finding the adjustment for the left lane, because I had 5/5 strikes on the right lane in the second game, repeating my first game score in the third when I did find it.

Result: 183-173-183=539
Average (15 games): 168
Average for last 9 games: 178
Next week's AVG+1 score: 513

Composite average (18 games): 171

Si was absent, and we might have been able to use him, as we only won first game. On the other hand, the opposing anchor shot 747.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/04/18 11:57 PM

Not bad Richie. J - having the right equipment for what you're bowling on is definitely half the battle. Doesn't substitute for good bowling but having the wrong ball can get you into a lot of trouble. Case in point: last night we had a lefty sub for us that threw the ball great, but he had all shiny weaker symmetrical stuff and was consistently leaving flat 7s and a few pocket 7-10s. He had a good game in the 3rd when the lanes opened up a bit but a stronger ball would've made a huge difference for him.

Good amount of bowling for me this week. Monday I subbed and went 212, 208, and 230. First game I was actually clean the whole way with carry being an issue after an opening double. Switched balls in game 2 and did better until a few misses resulted in splits and finally put together a strong 3rd game that would have been a lot better had I not pulled a shot and opened in the 9th before striking out to end the night. Helped a team that was near the bottom of the standings win 7 of 9 though.

Wednesday 218, 224, 173. Actually threw the ball like crap in warmup and to start the game. Had a work outing at another bowling alley earlier in the day and the only problem is that it was candlepin and I think that screwed me up with muscle memory because I was pulling a lot of my shots. But fortunately I carried a few brooklyns and was making my spares and I was able to strike out 9th & 10th and was throwing it really well with some extra stuff on it by the end of that game (even carried a messenger for one of those strikes which I almost never get).

Started the 2nd game with a triple but got a little erratic toward the end and game 3 that plus missing the transition a few times and getting punished spelled disaster. However my opponent struggled and I was able to get my point in the 3rd despite losing the first 2 games. Team got killed lost 21-5.

Tonight in the scratch league wasn't feeling too good about our prospects considering we had a bowler that was going to be absent and we were unable to find a sub that fit into the average criteria. We had to take his blind score of 164 against a bowler that's 21 pins higher. However the 3 of us were able to take our individual points which was good enough for a split since we lost the game. I only shot 194 but it was good enough from the #3 position. Unfortunately the approaches were pretty bad and I got a little tentative with a few shots and paid the price for throwing it too slow. But in the 2nd I got into a groove and actually had a six pack and was hoping for a 280 before a ringing 7 in the 9th frame. Settled for 248. Ended with 216 for a 658 series but plenty good enough to take my point and team went 20-5. We moved into 6th and get the first place team next week.
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/05/18 04:39 PM

yah I feel like I'm starting over again. pretty much rolling the widow plus spare ball. I need to add another to the bag but not sure what at this point, the storm is for heavy and rolls out too fast. We're the 2nd league on Tuesdays, lanes are broke down already. this is me, pretty bad vids qual from my phone. Lanes are always dark here https://www.instagram.com/p/BoA8sH9Bpit/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/05/18 11:30 PM

My last two weeks have gone fairly well, but I've had one low game each week ruin a good 700 series. Wend 279,183,228 for a 690 last week. I couldn't string strikes the 2nd game and my first missed 10 pin of the season plus a 4-9 split in the 10th sunk that game. I moved a bit in the 3rd game and got relatively comfortable again. I had used the Turbo the whole night. Our team took 5.

Tonight, I started strong but after striking the first 3 frames, the Turbo went really bad over-under. Two straight 3-6-10's I made, a bucket I missed, and a 4-7-10. I put the Turbo away after I tried to move in and it didn't recover enough. I finished OK with my Super Natural to save a 187. I got really lined up with it the 2nd game and it hit great for a 267. I missed a transition in the 3rd game by a few frames, but still shot 245 for a 699. We ended up taking 3 points.

The highlight of tonight for me was watching my teammate badly pull a shot and hit only the 7 pin which bounced back out to knock down the 9 pin. I've heard of things like that happening before, but I've never seen someone leave a 1-2-3-4-5-6-8-10 in person.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/07/18 02:33 PM

Transition, transition!!!

First game was a good 220. Then, the dreaded transition for a 164. Changed balls late to finish strong. Then had another 222 in game 3.

A roller coaster 600. lol
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/07/18 10:30 PM

Well at least you adjusted unlike one guy in the league I subbed in last week who insisted on staying outside and bowling a 93. LOL.

Had my highest series of the season tonight after a disappointing tournament outing yesterday. Really focused on trying to throw a better shot to strike cause the other parts of my game are there (spare shooting, consistency) but not seeing the high scores due to lack of carry. So need to stay behind it better and really get the knee bend at the foul line. Shot 214, 248, and 256 for 718. Flagged a 7 pin in the first game but was otherwise clean. Threw 24 strikes tonight which is also a season high. Could really see the difference in ball motion getting a lot more on the back end.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/09/18 12:42 AM

I was very conscious of my speed, tonite. Since my knee operations, I have lost a ton of speed. I used to roll at 17.5 mph. Now, I can barely hold 12.
So, when we started, I watched the speed indicator on every ball. I gradually rose from 11 to 12+. And, the results were there, shooting a 190 in game 1, with a split open. In game 2, I was able to hold a 13.5-14 by lengthening my first step and extending my arm. a 230 was the result.

Then, came game 3. Oh wow. For some reason, I was back below 12 mph. And, I couldn't control the back end. 4 splits in a row for 4 opens, and they were big ones. Then, I flagged a 10 pin, hooking my spare ball in front in the 10th for a 135.

I have no answer why I slowed down. I was conscious of my speed, but just couldn't get it back.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/10/18 04:13 PM

So, Monday I focused on my speed and a target of over 14 mph. Then, came Sr league tues. On my first roll in practice, my slide foot stuck on my first step and I hurt my knee. I walked off shaking my head.

How can I hurt it in the walk of the approach? I didn't even slide.

Well, as I found out, the approaches were so sticky, my shoe would never slide. the desk said they cleaned the approaches. But, did go out and use alcohol and a rag.

then it dawned on me. Its raining outside and very humid inside. When did they open with their delayed opening schedule? And, when did they turn on the Air to dehumidify the house?

That was the answer. We bowl practice at 11:45 and they opened at 11:30. turned the Air on then. The approaches were really wet from humidity.

So, I couldn't walk on the approaches for the entire league as now, my soles were damp.

So, I bowled using only 1 step for 3 games. Rolled 516, well under average and my team lost 3 games. I was the high bowler, haha.

It didn't seem to hurt others as most seniors don't slide. I don't walk up, but I do shuffle my feet, sliding them on the floor as I walk. My feet stuck on every step.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/11/18 03:19 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Although my execution was much better in the third game, a couple of untimely splits prevented that game from scoring better. There were a couple of single-pin misses, including one filling the last frame.

Result: 171-159-198=528
Average (18 games): 169
Average for last 9 games: 175
Next week's AVG+1 score: 513

Composite average (21 games): 171

Team night wasn't too special, but we still won the first two games & total.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/13/18 07:38 AM

248-258-209 for a 715 last night for me. Was lined up most of the night which was good since I knew the lanes were going to get rather used up considering the team we were bowling. I ended the night targeting at 14 with my Super Natural which was deeper than I had played this season with that ball. The only disappointment was I had a clean night up until the 10th frame of the last game when I either got a little slow and/or tugged it a little to leave a Greek church. I was on a turkey and could have had a 248 that game had I struck out and we might have had a chance to take the last game instead of losing. Oh well, we still took 5 out of 7 points going into a position round next week.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/13/18 04:37 PM

Nice shooting, Mark.

But, the last i saw, bowling is a team game. And, your unfortunate 10th frame wasn't the difference. Maybe, it was the last.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/14/18 08:17 AM

What is bad is when you bowl a 700 series and your team wins zip. Wasted a good night.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/14/18 12:15 PM

Yeah, I know that its not just me and it was pretty much almost over by my turn anyway. I bowl 4th our our team, the 3rd and 5th bowlers were also coming in on at least 3 in a row but all three of us probably needed to at least double to have a good chance. 3rd went high and left a 3-6-10 that he made, then struck. I left my mess and my anchor left and made something I don't remember but by then we were done anyway and he didn't care. He did his usual "throw my spare ball straight around 25-30 mph to try to break the head pin" on his fill ball with his spare ball, which is always fun to watch.

I don't know how many for sure, but I know the team I'm on has lost more than a few games when I've shot 300.

Mark
Posted by: jsigone

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/17/18 01:03 PM

My black n gold needed a partner. Got a Roto Grip Halo, Drilled this one long n strong but sanded solid.

Halo Layout 60*/4 5-8/55* pin is drilled out in the ring finger

first night of league using the Halo. Took me half a game to find solid pocket, moved 5 left from shadow. From shadow practice to game three, I was over left 12 boards total, few boards left before I'm pressed on the ball return. This ball is solid 8-10 left of the black n gold to make solid pockets. It hooks and as long as I don't lay it flat it will hit the pocket. The ball did better missing right 2-3 boards of break point vs missing left. Break was around 7-8. I'd have to miss 3-5board left to find enough oil to slide near the pocket and not punch the face resulting in splits. Still learning but threw an average night in the end. 167, 210, 213 (ave 187).


I still had some near pocket splits with the halo, fix was moving a board at a time and Swing it while that line held. Speed was consistent 16mph thru the night I didn't try to transition to the black n gold. I wanted to learn this ball and how it break down without much traffic on this line.

Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/18/18 04:06 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I felt I executed better today, but a few early splits and transition misses later held my scores down. I did punch out in the 10th in two of the three games, the first coming when my team needed me.

Result: 172-179-183=534
Average (21 games): 171
Average for last 9 games: 177
Next week's AVG+1 score: 537

Composite average (24 games): 172

Si had one of his best nights of my recent memory, going 183-179-201 for a 563 set; it helped the team win all four points.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/21/18 07:57 AM

Friday night was a position night and we entered technically 1st in a 3 way tie for 1st based on total pinfall. I misread the lanes a little in practice and thought I needed to play more direct. Using my Super Natural, I struck the first two frames but left a pocket 7-10 I on the 3rd which had me doubt the reaction I was getting. I tried switching to the Turbo which struck nice in the 4th, but I then left two straight 10 pins. Made them and switched back to the Super Natural as I wasn't happy with the 10's and it went high for a split. After that I finally moved to where I had been playing the last few weeks and was lined up the rest of the night. I salvaged a 183 the first game and finished strong with a 237 and a 245 for a 665 series with no opens after the 1st game. I'm still very happy with my spare shooting, I've missed one single pin in the first 7 weeks.

Fortunately after a rocky start the team pulled off a 1 pin win the 1st game and won big the 2nd. They rallied late in a close 3rd game so we took 5. The 3rd team in the 3 way tie got swept and the team in 4th was only 2 points behind the 3 way tie so now we're tied for 1st with the team that was 4th before Friday.

The 3 way tie for 1st had me thinking about a question. Our bylaws have a 3 game rolloff for first place in the possibility of a tie. What happens if there was a 3 way tie going into the rolloff instead of just the position round? I'd think that you would need to get all 3 teams on the same pair or there could be a perceived advantage. I don't think doing a small stepladder would be right since I don't think seeding by pinfall and having one team only need to win once is right either along with needing to spread it over two weeks. Just curious, the odds of this happening are unlikely.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/24/18 07:10 PM

at the end of last year, there was a possibility of 8 teams to reach the final bracket spots. We had a meeting and decided to have a 1 game rolloff to break ties.

although the first 3 teams were solid, the final 5 places in the top roll off bracket was up in the air among 8 teams. There was only need for a 1 game rolloff for the the 8th place.

Top bracket was guaranteed $300 more then the second bracket. So, it was important.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/25/18 08:19 AM

I'm not sure what they did to the lanes on Monday. But, they announced it would be like the new recommended pattern and volume. Not sure what that is. Anyone have any insight on that?

I found the lanes to be less snappy. The ball carried longer with a very controllable arc, to me. Others commented that there was a lot of oil, which I didn't notice. It was just laid different to me.

those that swung the ball were more inconsistent. I stood 32, rolled out to the 8 board at the break, which was 45 feet. And, it came back nicely. The entry angle was not as severe and I carried high hits better. And, NO 10 PINS. I found that on high hits, the ball didn't go thru the head pin, but rather straight to the 5.

658 was reasonable, after my dismal start.

My down range target is the reflection of the 6 pin on the lane, and I can't tell you what arrow I roll over, probably between 13-15. As, I focus downlane. My old house had range finder marks, and I got used to looking far downlane. This house doesn't have range finders, so it takes a little adjustment.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/25/18 03:57 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

A little bit of everything last night except for first-ball gutter balls and split conversions. I'm proudest of my clean second game, and no missed single spares all night.

Result: 173-191-175=539
Average (24 games): 172
Average for last 9 games: 177
Next week's AVG+1 score: 541

Composite average (27 games): 173

Steve was absent, and the team only won the second game.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/25/18 11:57 PM

Good job Richie.

After breaking 700 a few weeks ago haven't been able to get back there in any of my leagues. Feel like I'm throwing the ball better than ever but still not quite lined up and not getting quite the motion I want down the lane. But I've avoided having really bad series and I'm able to at least avoid bowling under 600. Had 626 on Sunday and 615 last night.

Tonight though couldn't have asked for a worse start. 1 strike in the first 5 frames and 3 flat 7s. Flagged one then tried to adjust to hit higher in the pocket and went high for a 2,4,7,8. Couldn't get the 8 out on the spare attempt. Then a split and a 3rd open, sitting at 120 after 8. Struck in the 9th and had a chance to salvage 180, but moved in a bit to adjust off the last shot and went pocket 7-10 for a lousy 146.

The nadir of the season for me right there. Using a ball that I know works at this house (DV8 Alley Cat) and really nothing else in my bag that I felt comfortable going to. So instead tried a hand position change to get my track closer to the thumb hole and not have the ball come off the pattern so violently so I can play my down and in shot and importantly not get punished for trying to give it a little extra at the end.

It worked. I targeted the 9 board the rest of the night, focused on not bellying it, and the ball came off the pattern nice and smoothly and went through the pins. Put together my two highest games of the season: 268 and 267. Ended with 6 in a row in the 2nd game and started with the front 7 in the 3rd before leaving a flat 7 (just a little bit outside). But really happy with the comeback.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/27/18 07:57 AM

I wasn't sure how league was going to go last night after practice. I threw my first shot with my Super Natural which hit solid for a nice strike but then I moved to the right lane. I had already noticed that my ball came back quite wet after my shot on the left lane and it hardly moved at all on the right lane. This continued for a few more shots, OK on left, hardly moving on right. It wasn't just me either, everyone was having trouble on the right lane and the left lane was sketchy too. They had a bunch of bumper bowling right before our league, gotta love carrydown.

I switched to the Turbo in practice and had an OK first game for a 214 with an open in the 9th frame for a 3-10 (only open of night). That was on the right lane which had finally started to break down. We somehow won that game, my anchor struggled a lot and shot 80 pins below average that game. The rest of the night, I was really lined up, I shot a 278 the 2nd game with a converted 3-10 in the 3rd frame. My anchor bowler came back the 2nd game to beat his first game by 140 pins. I finished the night with a clean 233 for a 725. We took all 7, the last two games were both close in the 10th frame.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/30/18 05:43 PM

a solid night for me, last night, 214-204-200. Was very consistent in my release, and spare shooting is easier when you only leave a pin or so.

But, for the 9th time in 10 weeks, we bowled short handed. the work travel schedule is killing my team mates. 7 on the roster and can only get 4 in a 5 man team.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 10/30/18 05:53 PM

Today in Sr League, it was a disaster. on the end pair of 39-40. You couldn't find 2 different lanes in the house. 40 hooked and 39 was slick. I finally used 2 different balls after the 5th frame of game 1, but still had trouble. Shot 144 in game 1 and 137 in game 2. And, I was high man in game 1 and second in game 2, where a 159 was high. The lowest average on our team is 175.

In game 3, I just used my spare ball for all shots and rolled it straight. Finished with a 224. That is NOT supposed to happen

We were bowling against a team of "not so good bowlers". Gave up 151 in cap per game. Lost the first by 80 and the second by over 100. Finally, won the last game.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/01/18 04:08 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Some sloppy execution cost me a decent first game, and I was only able to get over average in the other two. An issue might have been pacing, as Steve was the only other bowler on the pair, with our opponents forfeiting.

Result: 135-173-178=486
Average (27 games): 170
Average for last 9 games: 173
Next week's AVG+1 score: 514

Composite average (30 games): 172

Team won all four forfeit points, with the team just getting our forfeit score in the first game.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/01/18 11:13 PM

At least you guys got your points anyway. It was good seeing you on Sunday as well.

Decent week. Bowled a respectable 200, 224, 198, 236 at Richie's house on Sunday. Wasn't enough to make the cut but I've struggled there in the past on their house shot so it's progress.

Last night had 227, 213, 213 and tonight went 222, 212, 235. Used the same ball both nights; my DV8 Alley Cat despite the 2 patterns being quite different. Decided to attack the 44' pattern in my Wednesday league a little differently and play it from more of an outside angle. Worked well in the first game, had 2 other lefties on the pair so had a little bit of an issue with transition but held my own. Getting a big backending ball would probably be my best bet to really score in that house though.

Tonight on the shorter pattern targeted closer to 10 and couldn't buy a strike the first 6 frames and had 1 open in there (chopping a 4-7). Meanwhile my opponent started with an open followed by 5 in a row. But found it the frame after and had a a triple going into the 10th while my opponent slowed down. We both had the same max score of 224 and we both struck 10th & 11th, but he got up in the 12th and went through the nose for a 7 count. I almost did the same but survived with a 6-10 to take my point by 1 pin (but ended up missing the eliminator cut by 2 pins, boo).

Second game had a 213 with 1 open on a split (got punished on a tugged shot) but threw it pretty solid the rest of the night and by the 3rd game had to swing it a bit but I was getting the ball to corner and strike as opposed to leaving flat 7s which I'm prone to in those situations. Had a chance to go off the sheet for 248 but after striking in the 10th threw a wide shot and went 8,1 to finish the night. Solid night but I look around at some of the other scores in the house and wish mine were better. Still yet to have a 700 in that league. But I did take all of my points even though the team lost 14-11.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/03/18 07:17 AM

that's pretty solid, Wrong guy.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/04/18 10:08 AM

Subbing this morning in a Trios league. It's pretty good. League average is over 205. 32 teams.

Bowling with old teammates. I'm replacing a 225 average bowler. Wow, that's pressure.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/08/18 09:44 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

My first game was promising, but then my spare game largely escaped me, though, strangely, I didn't miss a 10 pin until the very end.

Result: 191-150-146=487
Average (30 games): 170
Average for last 9 games: 168
Next week's AVG+1 score 540

Composite average (33 games): 171

Si was absent first game, but had a strong third game to help us win third game and steal total. It turned out I needed the second hit in the 10th first game, but didn't get it.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/10/18 07:04 AM

Last week, we bowled the vacancy. I'm not sure if it was my setup on the approach or not reading the lanes correctly, but I struggled the first game last week to a 185. I thought I wasn't doing something correctly, so I refocused on how I hold the ball and finished strong and ended up with a 664 series last week. We did lose the first game, but won the last two.

We started practice last night for this week's league, and neither my ball and a bowler on the other team came back. One lane didn't reset pins either. It turns out that we should have never been put on that pair, a motor was burned out and they moved us next to the open bowlers on a pair that was bowled on already. I'm thinking that this night will be rough, and it seemed it when the left lane was hooking much more. I made the right adjustment on that lane and was really lined up most of the night to shoot 277-237-276 for a 790. If I hadn't had a few bad frames in the 2nd game, one for a split and two others that cost me a ton of count, I would of had the 800. I did have two strikes I did not deserve at all in there. We did win 2 games and wood with 2 bowlers not present, which should keep us in 1st.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/12/18 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
Subbing this morning in a Trios league. It's pretty good. League average is over 205. 32 teams.

Bowling with old teammates. I'm replacing a 225 average bowler. Wow, that's pressure.


Well, I didn't average 225. But, did roll 660. Plus my 40 pins cap per game. I think it helped.

Won all games and 4 H2H points.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/14/18 10:38 AM

Whelp....During this swirling the drain season, I had my FIRST 600+ series last night. Over the last 6 years I have seen my average dwindle from 204 to about 179. I am sure most of this is age related and NOT physical age. I have trouble focusing anymore, which USED to be automatic. anyways, 191 (with THREE doubles), 213 (started with a 4 timer), and 204 (had to spare a rap 10 in the 10th to secure the 600). Now, I DID have 4 easy wiffs, and enough strikes that if I pick them all it prolly amounts to 650.

After starting the shift with a dbl, I threw one through the face and left the 3-4-6-7-10 and covered just the 3....5 count, 6 out. nice. I would like to say I have turned a corner, but I know better....just an isolated good session in a sea of dreck.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/15/18 03:09 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

My execution was clearly better in the second game, though I thought I threw good shots to leave the 10s I missed in the third game. The missed 10s were stranger because I made the first two 10s that I left.

Result: 134-180-134=448
Average (33 games): 168
Average for last 9 games: 157
Next week's AVG+1 score: 533

Composite average (36 games): 169

Si was absent first game again, but did help us win second game for our lone point.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/18/18 11:25 AM

Bowling when your brain is not working at its best capacity is not fun. The nor'easter on Thursday took my normal 28 mile 35 minute long commute into a 4 hour and 20 minute white knuckle nightmare and I was way much more fortunate than others who tried to leave for home later than I did or plain got stuck. When I got home, I was spent. I didn't sleep well that night and even though I didn't have to work on Friday I still had to clear snow and I didn't feel mentally or physically great by league time.

In practice, my Turbo barely hooked and came back slathered in oil (more thoughts on that later) which made it very hard to clean with my ball wipe. Tried to fight with it or the Super Natural, but not much movement so I concluded that they actually put out more volume and I can't use urethane. Switched to my Critical Mass and threw one shot with it before practice ended but I did like the reaction. I immediately entered an over-under struggle for 7 frames with the Critical Mass. I threw 2 questionable strikes, one light and one high trip 4, picked up one spare, and had 4 opens, two of which were single pins I missed and the other two were a split and a washout. I switched to the Turbo again and it struck flush and reacted great like it had all season so far. It then ran high on me on the lane I thought was tight and picked the spare. Then, left a 10 pin in the 10th that I missed, but at least I was finally lined up with a solid 142 game. The rest of the night with the Turbo I had no opens and shot 237-228 to salvage a 607. We only won the middle game, and fortunately my 142 was most likely not a deciding factor in game 1 as we lost by 130 pins.

So, I believe that my Turbo which barely flares had to pick up a ton of oil in the pit to me to get covered in oil nearly everywhere in places nowhere near my track. I also believe that there was a lot of open bowling before league and the plastic is why the pit belt got so oily. By the time I switched back to the Turbo, any excess oil must have been gone since it came back with only oil on the track and easily cleaned with the wipe. Any thoughts on this?

Mark
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/19/18 01:49 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Moe Morrison suggested that I should've stayed in Sunday Niters and left my other league. She may have had a point, because I had, by far, my best night of the season subbing for Peter last night. I struggled a bit early, but was clean after the 4th frame first game, and had at least one strike in the 10th in each, punching out with six in the second game. As I said in the BowlSK comment, "I need more of these on Wednesday night!"

Result: 169-234-232=635
Average (6 games): 198
AVG+1 score for next time: 602

Composite average (39 games): 172

Eric covered my under-average first game with a 252 to win the only two points that were mildly contested in our sweep.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/20/18 12:37 AM

well, I relaxed tonight. There was a girl's HS tournament before our league. And we had a 1 hour delayed start. So I had dinner and talked with the wife. Went to the lanes and found my team already bowing.

The girl's HS tournament is next week. Damn!!

So, only got 2 games in. Started spilt, split without practice and ended 181. Last game, just never hit with consistency for 186. my team would have had 181 had I stayed home on absent score. I was no help.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/20/18 06:13 PM

Bowled Senior League today. My sad performance continued. 3 180 games.

But, the bad part was, I got ball damage on lane 23. A scrape around the ball with slight depression. The desk took it to be refinished.

Then, 2 frames later, my second ball got the same damage on the same lane. So, 2 balls out of my bag to be refinished.

The laneman came out and thanked me for informing him of my problem. He looked and found a screw in the underfloor ball track.

But, why was it only on my balls and not the others? 2 balls damaged and both mine.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/22/18 07:44 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

There seemed to be more oil downlane than usual last night, which meant I didn't have to move much, but also made left-side spares tricky, as I missed a lot of them. The two washouts were likely a product of the lane condition, as well.

Result: 163-148-178=489
Average (36 games): 167
Average for last 9 games: 158
Next week's AVG+1 score: 512

Composite average (42 games): 172

Our opponents didn't have a legal lineup, so we were bowling for forfeit points, all four of which we won. Steve had one of his better games, a 135, in the second game to help us.

Something happened last night on one of the adjoining pairs that I'll mention here: Our league president converted the 7-10 split for his first time. Nice going!
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/23/18 07:40 AM

I subbed Tuesday night and had a TOTAL of 8 strikes (sheeeeeesh), 3 whiffs but picked one split...558 yuk. In my actual league Wednesday night I started with a no strike 130something, before switching to my urethane spare ball for strikes, and did a touch better....180something, 199...I DO have a resin ball I (prolly) could use on that depleted condition, but it wasn't in the bag. It will be from now on going into that house.

I attempted the Thanksgiving eve sweeper, which they ran squads for every day from Sunday on. Two games across 4 lanes, top score each squad got an automatic into the finals, after that qualify on your score. Now, it is nominally a handicapped tournament, BUT, 14 of the 16 finalists were obvious scratch players, including one lady pro. The cut was 442 and I did so badly that I DNFed it 1/2 way through my 2nd game....something I had never done before.

Over last weekend I traveled to Pittsburgh for the TAT tournament. I bought a sweeper entry and a tournament entry online months ago. They divvy the entries by average level, which is nice...you end up competing against folks of your ability level (roughly). The sweeper goes 2 games over 4 lanes, and at my meager average level, you play no-tap. I struck out in both 10th frames to have 2 games under 200 (NO-TAP! sheesh).

I was booked to bowl at 3.30 Saturday afternoon. I sat at a poker tournament table at 11AM, (expecting nothing). At 2.30, it was obvious I was going deep into the poker...I ended up winning it! It finished just before 10PM, and then took my crew all out to dinner at the steak house...11 hours of butt time but the payout was worth it.
Sunday AM I went down to the lanes and talked to the tournament organizers, and explained what happened, and the guy says, "We have another squad at 11 you can bowl." I told him that I had had my fun for the weekend. LoL. He offered and I accepted a refund on my entry fee! Nice! I "won" money by not showing up!

I did hang and watch the 1st round of finals. It is an eliminator on your pair. I saw 219, 221, and 223 not be enough when the other 2 on the pair started with the front 8 strikes. I saw one guy pitch it in the moat to cost him moving on to the 2nd round. Then I walked down to where the handicap players were playing and saw a pair with 5 players where the high score was 168. Winners of each of the 4 divisions cashed $1000. I will go back next year....maybe not take my bowling stuff. LoL.
It was a nice venue. Casino upstairs, bowling hall downstairs, horse track in front of the casino and a Hyatt attached. We had a great time!
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/25/18 06:05 PM

Saturday, I picked up both balls that had scratches. They were refinished by the pro shop. The scratches can still be felt if you run finger nail over them. But, I don't think they are too deep to affect the ball, even though in the track.

So, I went to the lanes to try them. There is a Sunday Practice League, and I used to bowl with a couple guys after. I got there when it was over, but found no one bowling.

I was told that because of TG on Thursday, the House hadn't oiled since the last league on Tuesday. That's 5 days. One fellow said, the lanes were like sandpaper and the approaches had candy all over them.

The place hadn't been swept for a week or lanes oiled. WTF.

They really don't want league bowlers in this house, even for practice.

But, the desk lady did say they made $3200 on kids parties on Saturday. That is their direction.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/26/18 04:54 PM

The lanes were busy on before league on Friday after Thanksgiving as expected. They started out tight and ended up hooking like crazy. I started with my Turbo, but switched to my Super Natural in the first game as I liked its reaction better and finished with a 218 with two opens on splits. The second game, I was dialed in and had the front 8 and a 253, a split in the 9th frame killed that game. The last game was a 167 disaster with only two opens on splits. The left lane was flying and it got me in the 5th with a 4-9, but that was the lane I liked better. The right lane was awful wet-dry, it had no recovery inside and hooked at 30 feet if you got it out. My 638 series was the high on the pair. We only took 2 for the second week in a row.

Mark
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/29/18 05:11 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I looked OK in Game 1, but a breakdown on 33 forced us to move, and I was never quite comfortable on the breakdown pair, where my old Hy-Road gave me my best look, but would sometimes over-react to the dry. Ball speed might have been the answer, but I was weak from getting over the flu that I had over the weekend.

Result: 171-145-161=477
Average (39 games): 167
Average for last 9 games: 157
Next week's AVG+1 score: 539

Composite average (45 games): 171

Si is bowling better than me now, with a 513 last night, which helped us win three of four. My conversion of the 1-3-10 in the 10th third game was important, as we might have lost total if I didn't.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 11/30/18 01:52 AM

Frustrated with bowling right now. Ended up dropping out of my Sunday league. Only joined this league as a favor to the team I was bowling on and two of them dropped out on me. One due to a dispute with another team member and the other to a supposed injury. Then the last teammate didn't show up one week with no notice, ended up bowling 1 on 4 and at the end of the night told the secretary I was dropping out. Fortunately she understood due to the circumstances and didn't make me give the customary two weeks notice. Finished with a 215 average and the way things are going that might be my high average this season.

Averaging 204 and 212 on Wednesday and Thursday respectively. That might seem pretty good but the way I'm throwing the ball and with the scores that other people are posting it's not good enough. Putting 4/5/6 strikes together in a row seems impossible at this point. My pocket to carry is tiny. On Wednesday I had 30 clean frames, hit the pocket consistently and managed to only shoot 214, 204, 236. So many damn 7 pins. No matter what I tried I could not get the ball to go through the pins correctly. Have a Katana Slash on the way that will hopefully help me with this shot because nothing else in my arsenal is working.

Thursday I'm averaging a bit higher but it's a shorter shot and I'm still struggling to put together 3 good games. Started tonight with double, 9/, double and was clean until the 8th at least when I threw it too far outside and the ball came ROARING back and left a 4-6. Pulled one in the 9th and left another split. So that ended up being a 193 game. Then started the next game with 9/, 9/, 9/, 9/. Ended up doubling but then left a solid 5 pin followed by an X. Couldn't put together another double but kept it clean for a 205. Third game was a little better with 221 but wasn't good enough to take any of my points. Fortunately my teammates came up big against a good team and we took 17 out of 26.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/02/18 07:25 AM

League on Friday night was one of those "I wish I could bowl the whole night on only that lane" nights. I was fine on the right lane, nothing strange happened and I had no carry issues. On the left lane, one some shots it was either taking off one me or sliding. I left 2 pocket 7-10's on that lane, one of which was the 1st ball of the 10th in the 2nd game. As you can figure, I had trouble stringing strikes all night. I had a 214 the first game and a 190 the 2nd game due to the pocket 7-10 and a missed 10 pin. The 3rd game I came into the 8th frame of a close game with an open in the 5th after nearly making a 2-10 on the left lane. I struck in the 8th and went up for my last shot on the left lane. I likely threw my best shot of the night on that lane and it buried 10 in the pit. I struck out in the 10th for a 236 and it gave us a chance to win, but their last 2 bowlers came through. Can't complain with a 640 considering the troubles I had on the left lane.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/02/18 08:07 PM

Everyone seems to be having their troubles. I am just so erratic, I am questioning my ability. I roll 2-3 good balls, than I pull and cross over. And, I don't know why.

Last week, I had 9 splits in 3 games. 5 in game 3. I changed balls twice and moved all over. the only thing I can think of is I must have slowed down, allowing the ball to gain more friction. I really don't know.

But nights of 200+, 200+, 150 are totally unacceptable. And, I seen to be doing that every night of late.

I did get a chuckle last week. Was asked to replace another bowler on the Senior Travel scratch team, to which I accepted. Then, I got a call. Seems my average this year puts the team over the CAP, so I can't bowl. I'm bowling like crap and it's too high???
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/03/18 10:52 PM

Eek, sorry to hear that. How much over the cap were you? We had an issue come up in our scratch league where a team lost a bowler for the season due to an injury and wanted to replace him with a guy that was 1 pin over the cap. The league had a vote and allowed the replacement. It wasn't like they were bringing in a ringer either; it was someone with a 179 average replacing a 178 average.

Was fortunate enough to have a silver level coach watch me bowl over the weekend and give me some pointers. He actually encouraged me to add some more ball speed to help with my carry and the over/under I've been getting. It definitely helped. I actually took out my Cash which I hadn't used in awhile and used it on the 44' pattern and did well with it. So that will be the first ball out of my bag on Wednesday.

I did get the Katana Slash but went a little too long down the lane for me on that same 44' pattern. I considered sanding it but left it at box surface (and I think it acquired some lane shine too, not sure) to play behind my Cash on the longer pattern and perhaps use it as first ball out of the bag on other house shots.

Got a chance to sub tonight in another house and took out the Slash. First game started out slow and shot only 203 (with an open). Approaches were a bit slippery and it took me a little bit to get going and be comfortable with them, but came back with a strong 248 second game and finished with 220. A little disappointed in the 3rd game, after starting with a triple, 9/, then double I felt like I was locked in and on track to shoot 279. But then I got soft with one (not intentionally) and left the dreaded big 4. Doubled and still had a shot to go off the sheet for 241, but came in a wee bit high and left an 8 pin but had no problem burying the fill ball after I made a 2&1 move. So settled for 671 but 3 opens and more strikes. Encouraging.

Really like what I'm seeing out of this ball. Gives me the angularity I need and I don't lose carry if I have to move inside with it. Hoping I can put together 2 more solid series this week before I head off to Vermont for a tournament this weekend.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/04/18 02:34 AM

hmmmm, someone remembered how to bowl!!

220-228-256, woohoo.

I didn't want that 3rd game failure to recur. So, I consciously increased my footwork to maintain my speed. I guess that worked. This should have been a lot higher too. I left 3 solid 8 pins in game 1. Each between strikes.

I had my only open in the 10th of game 2.

Game 3 was just an easy roll with more speed. And, I don't mean real fast. I was routinely around 15.5 mph.

I also changed my line in game 3 after flagging a spare in the 10th to the left. I stood on 32, and targeted the reflection of the 6 pin down lane. I guess it worked. I was light for my few spare pick ups. left the bucket couple times. And, I got a favorable hold on 1 ball I didn't let out.

So, overall, a good nite for me.
Posted by: Fin09

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/06/18 02:37 PM

Been away from here for awhile- kinda quiet. Still putting up numbers I'm happy with, but bowling 3 games a week on a house shot has played a part in my spare game not being as sharp as it was when I bowling more. It gets masked on nights that I don't leave much to shoot at, but I need to get in some practice so I don't miss the first easy spare I leave, like I did last night. 10 pin in the 3rd frame of the 1st game on a light pocket hit, throw my plastic ball at it, tug it right by it into the gutter. It ends up knocking me out of the eliminator in the 1st game (by one pin- 225 was the cut, I shot 224). I miss twice the rest of the night, both in the 3rd game, shot 224-300-257-781 and didn't win a dime. Gotta quit missing spares.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/06/18 03:37 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I looked OK for my first two games, but there were just too many splits and washouts to overcome from in the last one.

Result: 176-179-132=487
Average (42 games): 166
Average for last 9 games: 161
Next week's AVG+1 score: 511

Composite average (48 games): 170

Last game was the telling one, as a high-handicap team started striking, a combo difficult to counter. Team did win the second game.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/08/18 10:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Fin09
Been away from here for awhile-
shot 224-300-257-781 and didn't win a dime. Gotta quit missing spares.


Nice goin, Fin. I shot the ball well thursday AM, but didn't score....14 strikes and 14 nine counts....That's nearly the entire set and the strikes weren't bunched so I had 550some...nertz!
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/13/18 02:55 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

This was a definite shot in the arm for Wednesday night. It was similar to my last Sunday night in that my second and third games were clean, although it didn't score quite as high. There were also no missed single-pin spares.

Result: 169-212-192=573
Average (45 games): 168
Average for last 9 games: 170
Next week's AVG+1 score: 535

Composite average (51 games): 171

Si & I actually put up matching 573s, with his having a 222 game. The four points against the vacant were easily won.
Posted by: Fin09

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/14/18 11:31 AM

Thanks- I managed to stay clean this week, won back the money I donated last week, and a few extra bucks. 257-237-288-783. Front 10 3rd game, but it was an ugly front 10. Leaked one a little left midway through, hooked early for a Brooklyn strike, then tripped a couple of 6 pins late. 6 pin finally got me on the 11th ball. 2 other lefties on my pair - one with a 500 or so Rev rate at 19+ mph, other was a woman throwing it 12-13 mph with very little on it. Playing very different lines, but I was the only one of us who scored well.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/20/18 03:48 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Pleased with the score at the end, but each game had a different character, grinding out the spares in the first, the four-bagger in the second, and the strike-or-split nature of the third. The whole still raised my average.

Result: 189-191-176=556
Average (48 games): 169
Average for last 9 games: 179
Next week's AVG+1 score: 537

Composite average (54 games): 172

Team won first & third games and total for 3 points. Third game was thanks to Si's 203.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/27/18 04:14 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Really, the only things I wanted back from last night were the five splits I left, including the 4-5-7 three times. The ball change after the first two was good, but I probably could've just kept the Tropical Breeze and moved, too.

Result: 199-157-189=545
Average (51 games): 170
Average for last 9 games: 186
Next week's AVG+1 score: 556

Composite average (57 games): 173

Si had a strong 576 night, and team won second and third games and total after losing the first by under 30 pins.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 12/30/18 12:23 PM

Last week I had my first clean 30 in 3 years. Opened with a baby split that I picked and also closed with a baby split that I picked! Never had mor than a double though, so clean for me amouts to 621. nertz
Posted by: Fin09

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/03/19 04:15 PM

Nice- clean is more impressive when you have to shoot at a lot of spares.
Sometimes you find a little satisfaction in shooting your average on a night that requires some unusual adjustments and executing. We didn't bowl last week for the holidays, so I didn't pick up a ball for 2 weeks. Practice felt awkward. Was missing inside, everything was going through the nose. By the end of practice I had settled in a little, but I was seeing about a 4 board difference between the 2 lanes, which I don't do well. I manage to shoot 216 with one wide open split, then 225 with another split. The right lane is getting tighter, but the left lane is hooking more and more, so by the middle of game 3 I had an 8 board difference on the approach and 6 boards at arrows. Most nights when this kind of thing happens, I'd be lucky to shoot 600. I managed to shoot 278 with one Brooklyn strike and a 3-9 spare in the middle to eke out 719 on a night that 570 was looking much more likely.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/06/19 05:08 PM

had a game last week where the only crossy I tossed was a strike and the 7 I pocketed ALL counted 9. crud
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/17/19 03:43 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

After being absent in consecutive weeks with the flu and an infected left ankle, I got clearance for bowling from the local wound care clinic. I had a slow start, but making most of my spares, before going clean in the second game with a 232, my second-best game of the season in this league. I ran out of gas a bit in the last one, but doubled late to save a 186 and make this my best set of the season in this league.

Result: 156-232-186=574
Average (54 games): 171
Average for last 9 games: 186
Next week's AVG+1 score: 552

Composite average (60 games): 174

Si was absent, and I got a 130-ish game from Steve in the first game for our only point.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/21/19 06:05 PM

how 'bout a clean game, 1 dbl, 1 trpl = 211
I counted 9 five times....FOUR 4's (2 hi, 2 lite) and a rap 10

it sure matters where the strikes are
Posted by: bigcall

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/22/19 04:12 PM

I took a couple of years off when my son was unable to bowl due to surgery. He's doing better now so we both joined a league (sanctioned finally) again this fall and I recently found my way back to these boards again.

I'm sorry to see that the virtual league has languished, but maybe it will pick up again some day?

Anyway, 1/2 way through the season I'm sitting around 217. It wasn't as bad as I thought in shaking off the rust although my stats (via BowlSK) say that my spare shooting has clearly suffered and is down about 10% from my peak of 85.6% of makeable.

Had a nice 724 set last week and have also achieved new personal bests of 290 and 761 (not the same week) so far.

I'll try to post here at least occasionally, but I have posted the Fall/Winter games at BowlSK, which is something I have found to be invaluable (mostly to note ball reaction mid-set).
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/24/19 03:34 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

My third game may have been my strangest clean game yet. It started with a three-count (making the spare, of course), and, in the 7th, I managed to pick the 10 clean out of the rack and made that spare. The only strike in the game was the one that made the game officially clean, in the 10th frame.

Result: 192-166-173=531
Average (57 games): 171
Average for last 9 games: 183
Next week's AVG+1 score: 537

Composite average (63 games): 174;

Si bowled the best game I'd ever seen him bowl in the first game, a 276 that should have been a 278 but for the 8 fill. We ran out of gas after that, however, as the first game was our only point.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/24/19 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: bigcall
I took a couple of years off when my son was unable to bowl due to surgery. He's doing better now so we both joined a league (sanctioned finally) again this fall and I recently found my way back to these boards again.

I'm sorry to see that the virtual league has languished, but maybe it will pick up again some day?

Anyway, 1/2 way through the season I'm sitting around 217. It wasn't as bad as I thought in shaking off the rust although my stats (via BowlSK) say that my spare shooting has clearly suffered and is down about 10% from my peak of 85.6% of makeable.

Had a nice 724 set last week and have also achieved new personal bests of 290 and 761 (not the same week) so far.

I'll try to post here at least occasionally, but I have posted the Fall/Winter games at BowlSK, which is something I have found to be invaluable (mostly to note ball reaction mid-set).


If you can give me dates and leagues for those personal bests, I can give a congratulatory shout-out on our Facebook page. smile
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 01/31/19 03:40 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I was happy with my first game, but I needed to finish better, as I frittered away pins with four single-pin misses.

Result: 201-160-128-489
Average (60 games): 171
Average for last 9 games: 177
Next week's AVG+1 score: 564

Composite average (66 games): 173

Other than me for a game, we got good efforts from Si (612) and Steve (consistent 120s) to win the first two games and total.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/07/19 06:00 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

We were moved at the start because a mess was made near the bowling area, and the pocket was mostly elusive on the new pair. I just made enough spares to get to 500.

Result: 190-155-158=503
Average (63 games): 171
Average for last 9 games: 169
Next week's AVG+1 score: 577

Composite average (69 games): 173

Because I didn't have Si (sick) or Steve (left before bowling started), my team had to forfeit, and I'm not sure of the future of the team going forward.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/14/19 05:36 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Found out that my Hy-Road is still useful for down & in shots, but not carrying and missing the spares is still not going to cut it. The missed 10s were particularly frustrating, as I'd thought I'd found a way to cut the hook and the ball still went left.

Result: 150-174-151=475
Average (66 games): 170
Average for last 9 games: 163
Next week's AVG+1 score: 549

Composite average (72 games): 172

Si had a clean 195-ish game second game, and, where that was my better game, we won it and hung on for total. All three games could have been won, really.
Posted by: bigcall

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/17/19 12:18 PM

I had been struggling over the last few weeks, some of which had to do with lane conditions and ball options/choices. I decided to revive a couple of my older balls and had them plugged and adjusted at the same time since my span has changed over time.

Used my Nomad Dagger that I got back on Friday and had much better success 269-232-193.

Unfortunately we were absolutely crushed in spite of bowling a net +266 over average as a team. The other team's 4th bowler with a 198 average was out of his mind and shot 264-279-300, 843 which is +249 by himself!

You just have to tip your hat sometimes I suppose...

I'm looking at picking up a Hy-Road X to get some more length when I need it while retaining some back end since my old Mutant Cell Pearl just isn't working like it used and my Hy-Road Solid is picking up too early on the lanes lately.

We'll see how it goes.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/21/19 05:32 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Very inconsistent (moves would have the opposite effect) as well as being unfortunate (all of the stone 7s). This is probably part of a February slump I think I get into.

Result: 160-156-171=487
Average (69 games): 170
Average for last 9 games: 162
Next week's AVG+1 score: 575

Composite average (75 games): 172

Si had a bad night for the first time in a while, so the team only won one (first game).
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/23/19 07:07 AM

It's been a while since I posted on this thread. I've just been muddling through much of the last 2-3 months, but still likely averaging around 215-220 for that interval. It feels like it has been a battle to stay around my average. Shot 621 after starting with a solid 168 game. 10-15 was fried by the 2nd game, so I made a big jump inside and it was a great move. However, like clockwork my Vintage Danger Zone which first reacted great inside started to fade by the middle of the 3rd game. Our team took 5, we've been near the top all season. It looks like it will be a close battle for 1st.

Meanwhile, for the last two weeks our center has decided to have large group events with lots of kids right before our league. The parking lot has been a mess of people parked in fire lanes to load in their kids who apparently cannot walk to the car for whatever reason. There's rental shoes, house balls, and garbage left all over the place. Needless to say, the conditions of the lanes could also be better.

Mark
Posted by: 82Boat69

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/23/19 03:14 PM

We pay extra in our league dues to have a pristine shot put on before our league. I think its only 2-bits per bowler. You might see if you can do that where you bowl. As for the garbage left by others, that something that needs to be taken up with management.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/23/19 03:29 PM

It's going to happen again on Friday next week. I wish we could arrange something like that for a fresh shot, but our center is starting to not like us league bowlers very much. They wouldn't have time to recondition the lanes anyway, these groups are getting done around 6:00 and we're supposed to start practice at 6:25.

Mark
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 02/28/19 05:30 PM

My team got good news when Eric, who is on the Sunday night team I sub for, messaged me on Facebook asking if I had room on my Wednesday night team and asked if he could join us after I affirmed that fact. Eric carries a 213 average on Sunday night, so he became our new anchor bowler, with me moving to set-up.

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Other than the splits and the washout in the third game, my night was pretty good. The real issue, however, was carrying my 7 pin, all but one of the solid variety.

Result: 174-202-136=512
Average (72 games): 170
Average for last 9 games: 163
Next week's AVG+1 score: 576

Composite average (78 games): 172

Si was really the one who stole the show, with a second game 267 that was just one pin from a 300 game, and had a 604 total. Eric shot a slightly bigger 600, and even Steve got into the act with a 134 third game. Needless to say, team won all four.
Posted by: bigcall

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/02/19 09:31 PM

After a just completely miserable set last week where I just couldn't get any carry (10 strikes all night, despite 26 shots in the pocket), I rebounded well with much better carry (24 of 32) and had a clean series making all 10 spare leaves.

I tried out my new Hy-Road X last week, but it was just too strong given the lack of oil. This week there was a little more volume so I was able to stick with it until midway through the final game when I had to ball down.

247-257-233 for 737

My son had his first 700 series 215-259-226 to hit it on the nose!
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/04/19 10:44 AM

clean serieses are awesome! Nicely done!!!
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/07/19 05:04 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Multi-pin spares, particularly splits and washouts, doomed this night, with the prime example being the back-to-back 4-5-7s, which told me I could no longer swing it. I missed two single pins, but neither was a 10.

Result: 169-138-166=473
Average (75 games): 169
Average for last 9 games: 163
Next week's AVG+1 score: 538

Composite average (81 games): 171

Eric couldn't make it (car trouble) and Si missed the first game; team won no points.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/09/19 07:54 AM

Two weeks in league with the Hy-Road Nano and the ball has done what I wanted it to do. The first game I shot last week in league was bad because my mechanics were off. Once I got it (sort of) straightened out, I bowled a good second game but ended up with some bad breaks in the 3rd game that kept it from being better and shot a 594. Our team only won one game. Additionally, it was being way more jumpy than when I first practiced with it and I was having trouble with it getting downlane before it took off. However, I attributed that to me and my bad mechanics.

I wasn't too happy after that night, so I went to practice last Sunday morning and tried a few other lines with it and learned about everything I can't do with the ball. My mechanics were still off, I was still having trouble getting it downlane, and other times I was blasting it past the break point and it would never make it back. I should have stopped, but probably was bowling too many games too fast out of frustration and I ended up ripping a blister on my thumb.

Fortunately, the skin was still over the blister and I kept a bandage on it all week. Yesterday afternoon before league, I got rid of the dead skin and it looked good enough to not need a patch. During practice before league last night, I was terrible and still seemed lost. I pulled my first shot for a 9/ in the first game, then ran off 8 strikes. Left a 5 count washout the first ball in the 10th that I made and then a 9 count for a 264. I had the front 6 the first game, then converted a 10 pin. The next shot went a touch high and left a fast 4-7 that I converted. Made it, adjusted, and struck the next 4 for a 267. The 3rd game started with a 9/ on a 2 pin, then struck the next 7. I left a 10 pin in the 9th that I converted. Going into the 10th, I need to strike out for a 269 and an 800 even. I got the first two but in an attempt not to get too fast on the last ball, I got a touch slow and it went high to leave a 6 pin for a 268 and a 799. I'd really like the 5 count washout back. We only won one game again and we've been dropping like a rock the last 3 weeks.

As for the ball, when I'm executing properly it's awesome. When everything around 10-15 was fried in the 3rd game and others struggled, I was having no trouble at all as I never played outside of 3rd arrow the whole night. That is exactly what I wanted.

Mark
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/11/19 08:24 AM

so....I have pretty much struggled all year. If I was in a good place for strikes, my spare game was not good and vice-a-versa. Saturday was mostly OK...201-219-215=635. I have had carry issues swinging it through the oil, so I have decided to stay with less aggressive equipment and stay as out as possible. One session last week featured 7 strikes and SEVENTEEN 9 counts. I left the entire rack a pin at a time (save the 1 and the 5).
This session I had 2 whiffs, 2 splits, but otherwise pretty good. Oh yeah....I was fairly lucky that nobody else was lined up and the pot game I run is a handicap affair, so I won all 4 legs of it! I mostly run it because I enjoy being a ham on the PA mic during the announcements. All 6_ball all the time!!
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/14/19 01:12 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

The second game is not one I'll blame on poor spare shooting, but rather missing a ball change, because the Hy-Road was not moving at all, but the Tropical Breeze held me in good stead the rest of the night. Indeed, it was my second-best third game of the season.

Result: 174-133-207=514
Average (78 games): 169
Average for last 9 games: 166
Next week's AVG+1 score: 534

Composite average (84 games): 171

We were missing both Si and Eric, but won the third game by enough to steal total.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/21/19 04:55 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I thought I'd try my Alpha Crux last night, and, while I think I need more practice with it, the change to my Tropical Breeze was still better timed than last week from a lane condition perspective.

Result: 163-170-182=515
Average (81 games): 169
Average for last 9 games: 166
Next week's AVG+1 score: 529

Composite average (87 games): 171

I had my full four-man team back last night, but we only won the first game.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 03/28/19 04:30 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Probably the less said about this, the better.

Result: 67-169-102=338
Average (84 games): 167
Average for last 9 games: 151
Next week's AVG+1 score: 527

Composite average (90 games): 169

Nearly everyone struggled to a degree, but we still eked out the second game.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/11/19 04:09 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I was pleased to have a 183 triplicate alive after two, but it's hard to score well when you fall off the virtual cliff, as I had no marks after the 5th frame in the third game.

Result: 183-183-126=492
Average (87 games): 167
Average for last 9 games: 149
Next week's AVG+1 score: 539

Composite average (93 games): 169

With Si absent, we were assured of his average minus five bowling against the vacant. We barely lost the third game point, but won the other three.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/12/19 03:27 PM

After not bowling since December, got a call from my team to come for the final segment rolloff, just to watch. Well, as it turned out, we were a man short, which has been common since I had to leave the team.

My replacement had a 171 average. And, less 10 pins for the absent score, they got a 161 total.

Well, I was sure I could bowl 161. So, I checked with the President who said I was on the roster, and had sufficient games bowled to compete in the rolloff.

Haha, not bowling for a few months took its toll in timing and balance. I barely shot over 161 average, but, lost the handicap difference between 161 and my average.

We did win 2, but lost total pins by 10.

I was horrible.
Posted by: bigcall

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/13/19 08:53 AM

I've been on a nice streak over the last 7 weeks averaging about 234 over that period capped by a personal best set last night (by 1 pin, but I'll take it).

My strategy of late is to start off with the Hy-Road X and ride it for as long as I can before balling down to my old Nomad Dagger. Didn't get off to an auspicious start opening with a 2-8-10, but reeled off the next 8 before a couple of shots in the 10th that broke hard left me at 256.

Changed to the Dagger as planned and after missing a 10 pin in the 2nd, took it off the sheet for a 268.

A little erratic in the 3rd game, but I think I was dealing with some carry down since one of my teammates was on my line using urethane. Refound the shot with a 5-bagger but got a little unlucky in the 10th and finished with a 238 and a 762 series.

Unfortunately we lost all games and may have fallen out of first place. Still time to right the ship though.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/15/19 12:04 PM

Eric, one of my Wednesday night teammates, gave me one last opportunity to sub on his Sunday night team, for which I was a regular member for a couple of years, last night.

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

My night was really made in the third game, when I made a drastic move out, and a subtle hand position change after leaving a couple of 10s led to a six-bagger to end the night.

Result: 164-159-211=534
Final average (9 games): 191

Composite average (96 games): 169

Team, with my help, won the third game by enough for total and four points, with Peter telling me they hadn't won more than two points against our opponents all season.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/18/19 03:37 PM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

Strikes were elusive after my turkey in the first game, but I did make most of the easy spares, with motivation actually involved in my single-pin miss to end the night. And what might have been my best shot of the night left a Westgate 7-10.

Result: 189-141-158=488
Average (90 games): 167
Average for last 9 games: 146
Next week's AVG+1 score: 555

Composite average (99 games): 169

Eric was absent, and we won no points.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/19/19 11:24 PM

Originally Posted By: bigcall
I've been on a nice streak over the last 7 weeks averaging about 234 over that period capped by a personal best set last night (by 1 pin, but I'll take it).

Congrats. This game sure is a lot more fun when you're scoring.

Similar deal with me. Really had been mostly struggling the whole season but had a breakthrough lately after taking two lessons with a silver level coach. Had only a few 700 series the entire season but after the first lesson I broke through with a 774 and the next week had 750, both coming in my scratch league. Then a few weeks of so-so bowling had another lesson and shot a season high 775, also in my scratch league. My average shot up to 221 there with a week to go in a house where nobody averages higher than 226 so really pleased with that. Even when I was struggling there I was squeezing out 650ish series with staying clean and converting my spares and that kept me in play.

My Wednesday league had been a struggle all season. Just could not carry on that shot but pulled out my Grudge and used what my coach had taught me and finished up with series of 687 and 682 in the last two weeks. Team ended up finishing 3rd in the 2nd half and taking 22 out of 26 the final night against a really good team that won the first half.

Finally, subbing in a 3rd house where I am only averaging around 210 or so. Subbed in 3 different leagues over the past two weeks and went 718, 730, 714. Big difference when you can get the ball to snap at the end rather than just rolling forward.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/24/19 04:04 PM

Subbed last night and got my 4th and probably final chance this season to get an honor score. Started 268, 269 and in the 3rd game went 9/, 9/, 9/. Sensed there was some carry down, made a ball change and proceeded to throw 7 in a row. 11th frame I liked it off my hand but came in a little bit light and couldn't nudge the 10 pin over. So ended up with 257 and 794 for a series. Not bad.

0-4 on honor score attempts this season:

299 in a tourney a few months ago (same story as last night, light hit and the 10 pin would not budge).

Had front 9 in my scratch league shortly after that, 10th shot fell out my hand. Had to settle for 7/,9 for 276.

A few weeks ago subbed in the Friday league where I shot 730. Second game had the front 9 and on the 10th shot is when they made the stupid announcement about the 50/50 raffle. 8/,9 277 this time.

Final chance tomorrow. Scratch league position round but more focused on the team result than my own. Trying to hold onto 5th. Too far behind 4th to move up, but can definitely move down with a bad night.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/25/19 11:52 AM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

I mostly struggled early, but when I did find my good ball and line, I reeled off five in a row for what was close to my high game for the season.

Result: 137-156-230=523
Average (93 games): 167
Average for last 9 games: 167
Next week's AVG+1 score: 536

Composite average (102 games): 169

We had our full four, but Eric had to leave after two games because of a family emergency. We lost the first game big, but won the other two to split the points.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 04/25/19 11:50 PM

Nice finish Richie.

Closed the book on the fall/winter season tonight with games of 223, 185, 228. Had to share the left side with 2 of their guys tonight and one of them revs it a lot. So had some transition that I'm not used to and caught me in the 2nd game. Third game was a struggle as well but went to a different ball in each lane (one was hooking more than the other by that point for all 3 of us) and found 5 in a row to end the night and the season. Team won 17 points out of 25 and we held onto 5th. Ended up splitting with my opponent, taking total by 3 pins after dropping the first two games to him.

Finished with a 221 average, my highest in 4 seasons. Had a few leagues with 220 exactly so feels good to get over that hump so to speak. Feel like I've finally turned a corner in this game after feeling like I've peaked. Looking forward to bowling in a competitive summer league and going to Nationals in a month.
Posted by: Richie V.

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/02/19 10:46 AM

Last night's bowling, frame-by-frame

With better carry late, this could have been in the 7s, but it's still a higher 6 if I make my single pins. It turned out my best game of the season would come on the last night, my 255 in the first game. It was also my only 6 in this league this season.

Result: 255-203-157=615
Final average (96 games): 168
Average for last 9 games: 180

Final composite average (105 games): 170

We were bowling the vacant without Eric all night and Si for the first game, but we easily won all four, with the three of us all making contributions.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/02/19 04:55 PM

Tomorrow night is the first of the last two weeks, both position rounds. We're in a tie for 1st with a decent lead on 3rd. It should be an interesting two weeks. Been bowling around my average for a while, gotta keep it up to try to shoot for 1st.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/06/19 04:16 AM

My Monday team ended 13 of 18 teams, bowling short handed since I left. Not very good. My thurs team took second with a replacement. Of course, I had to quit both of those teams in December.

I did continue to bowl with Seniors on Tues afternoon. There is very little pressure and I can take time between shots. Well, we won the league for the 3rd consecutive year since I joined this team. And, we also won 1 of the 2 Summer sessions in between. Taking second in the other.

There is s Senior tournament Tues, which I qualified for. It's pins over average. The winner gets free lineage for the next year. I was second last year.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/06/19 09:21 PM

We took 5 of 7 on Friday night, we really stole the 2nd game as we were down by over 50 pins at the beginning of the 9th frame of that game but came back to win. We also nearly stole the 3rd game in the 10th frame. We can't finish worse than second, it would be 2 2nd places in a row for us.

I'm dreading the possibility of them taking 5 next week to cause a tie. Our bylaws has our rolloff rule to break 1st place ties as 3 games starting immediately after the completion of the last game. I'm tempted to try to get that changed to a 1 game in the future.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/08/19 09:23 AM

Years ago, we had the same rule, 3 game rolloff. Well, both teams agreed to a 1 game before it started. Why start a 3 game series at 9:30 pm when some had to work the next day?

That worked and no one ever complained.

anyhow, good luck.
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/09/19 04:39 PM

Thanks Dennis. If we tie, I'll try to see if I can get it to be only 1 game. We do have the president on our team and the vice president and treasurer are on the other team so we'll definitely have officer approval on any decision.

Mark
Posted by: Mkirchie

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/11/19 06:52 AM

As I figured, a few of us on the teams had a discussion about how we should change the rule for next season to a 1 game roll-off in the event of a tie for first. I'm definitely bringing it up at our meeting at the beginning of next season. We won the first game, which I was happy about because I was not bowling well for the first 7 frames until I struck the last 5 shots to salvage a 197. We were behind the second game in the 10th frame but again came back to win so we were able to take 1st.

On a funny note, there is a bowler in the league who had bowled in the league for three years before this season. Every year before this season, he had been on a team that has finished 5th. He joking named their team "5th Place" for this season. I'm sure you can figure out where his team finished this year.

Mark
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Fall/Winter 2018-19 Leagues Thread - 05/13/19 02:12 AM

CONGRATS