Summer Leagues 2018 thread

Posted by: Richie V.

Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/02/18 11:21 AM

I haven't been a summer bowler recently, but thought I'd get the summer league thread started for the rest of you. As usual, post anything about your summer leagues, including your scores, in this thread. smile
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/02/18 02:03 PM

I plan on bowling in two leagues this summer: one on a sport shot and one on a house shot. I wouldn't have bothered with the house shot league but the center is offering two free practice games all summer just for bowling in it so I plan on taking advantage of that.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/03/18 09:11 AM

The summer tough shot league I am in starts tonight. We are using 5 different Slowinski patterns over 15 weeks. For the 1st 3 weeks, it will be the "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been", which is listed @ 45' with almost 28ml of volume. Pretty flat too. I plan on starting out left with something dull and aggressive and keeping it close to the pocket...[shrug]

Any suggestions for alternate strategies?
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/04/18 11:32 AM

so...I started playing a short pull over 11 that looked ok and had a 188 with 2 washouts (picked one)....I had to change balls for the 2nd game but wan't nearly as successful. Game 3 I moved deeper trying 4th arrow and breaking at 14 or so...couted 9 six times and flummoxed 2 of those spares. So next week I will stay farther right and ball down when I have to. My bro was over practicing on our shot and had a reasonable look from WAY out with a med (but early) ball...[shrug]
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/04/18 09:53 PM

Only bowling in a short Sr league. Not much competition, but will use it as competitive practice. 15 weeks.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/11/18 03:28 PM

[copied and pasted from the other thread]

Last night was a nightmare. A total of 6 strikes, counted 9 nine times...no splits to speak of, but I did have one washout where I put the headpin around the 10 on the spare attempt. Oh, yeah, there was 1 split...I picked a 5-7. After that frame I missed the 6-10 in the 10 pin spot and the next frame I left a 10 pin and missed it in the 6 pin spot. Stuff like that tends to drive me a bit crazy. We are in a tough shot league and are currently playing against the "what a long strange trip its been" pattern laid out by Joe Slowinski. 45' and pretty flat. Early on I need to play a pull to get to the pocket. Later on it starts to show some hook, but I am still using aggressive equipment that would NEVER play on the typical house shot. LoL

I wasn't the only one struggling...over the last 2 weeks I haven't hit 500 yet and am 12-4.

Earlier in the week I shot the "Lucky Strike Singles" tournament. 2 games, move a pair and bowl 2 more. They put a strike up for you in the 3rd-6th-and 9th frames each game, so, even though it is scored as 4 games you only really bowl 3. The shot is "house-y" in that the pocket isn't very hard to get to. Carry OTOH is rough. I counted 9 FOURTEEN TIMES! I will attempt this tournament at least once more before it ends.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/11/18 08:18 PM

Yes, on long patterns take advantage of the hold. Had a chance to bowl a baker doubles tournament a few weeks ago on 45' route 66 and surprisingly carried well rolling my sanded Cash from 11-12 into the pocket with very little break. My partner was more or less doing the same thing with his Tenacity from the right side until it broke down and he was able to move in. We finished +59 while the cut was -286 for the 10 game block, LOL.

Unfortunately the sport league I was going to join fell though. With only 11 people signed up they decided not to run it. I was able to jump into a doubles league at another house. Not a sport shot but the house is adding $500 to the prize pool and another bowler had asked me to join it with him, so it should be fun.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/15/18 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: wronghander

Unfortunately the sport league I was going to join fell though. With only 11 people signed up they decided not to run it.


We got over 30 people to bowl tough shot singles at Sunset. May be as many as 36. I think that that is pretty impressive.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/15/18 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: 6_ball_man
Originally Posted By: wronghander

Unfortunately the sport league I was going to join fell though. With only 11 people signed up they decided not to run it.


We got over 30 people to bowl tough shot singles at Sunset. May be as many as 36. I think that that is pretty impressive.


That's very impressive. Especially in a singles league. My have a ball league that started tonight got even fewer signups with only 8 bowlers so it ended up being a doubles format which is fine with me. Gets us done earlier and I'm only bowling in that league for the free practice games anyway (although getting a plastic ball with drilling included for an extra $3 per week is a good bonus as well).

Lanes were very slick at this place and wasn't expecting that so struggled in the first game with 166 (3 straight opens didn't help), but came back with clean games of 235 and 216 to end the night. Ended up being a good prep for Nationals for me since I worked on squaring up and working on my release and speed rather than go into my bag for another ball. A little more forgiveness here but I felt that most of my shots in game 2 and 3 were good.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/16/18 12:26 AM

decent today, 191, 231, 222. Won all 3 and in first place. this is getting boring.

Not doing well in my release practice. I released poorly, but still struck with a tug.
Can't rely on that.

Used 2 balls, a pear, and a hybrid. Pearl slid and the Hibrid hooked off the lane
Stuck with the pearl mostly.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/22/18 08:29 AM

The long/flat Slowinski pattern ate me up for 3 sessions, so this is a recounting of the last 60 and over tournament for this season. It was in my home house, but that didn't give me any advantage. I did have 16 strikes but the 10 nine counts hurt. After one double I left a 2 pin....between 2 others I left a 9 pin...those 2 cost me 42 pins, which wouldn't have been enough to make the cut, which was +62, which i do not find unreasonable. Add in the three flats on easies and maybe I am the cut...I did pick 1 of the 2 splits I left. It seems obvious I need to do something to improve my results.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/23/18 11:12 AM

Tuesday scores: 232, 218, 252

This real easy shot is good for practice. Wouldn't like it for competitive league.

My practice to get the ball out and into a roll is doing better. Getting much better carry and hitting the pocket with regularity. Well, with the exception of the 5 splits. 2 in first, 2 in second and 1 after the front 7 in third. I tugged each one.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 05/25/18 10:22 AM

This week we changed to Slowinski's "I Want My Momma" pattern and numbers were up throughout the league, but I was the 2nd best out of 30 with 204-176-181=561. Not a whole barrel full of strikes, but I was MUCH better on spares...even picked a split and a washout...coupla flats on double wood spares and a bizarre open in the very 1st frame where I left the 1-3-6-9 and somehow left the 6 on the spare attempt.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/01/18 12:01 AM

Good bowling u2. I'm loving these pattern names "I want my Momma", lol. Sounds like a demanding shot so getting out of there with 561 is not too shabby.

Leagues went pretty well for me this week. Made a change with my wrist support going to an Ebonite Striker and was concerned it wasn't going to give me the striking power that my Bionic did. However on the 44' house shot Tuesday after arriving late and having a 164 first game with no warmup shot 269, 215 to finish the night.

Tonight at a house with more friction went 218, 204, and 241 for 663. Had a chance to go off the sheet for 280 in the last game but I pulled it badly and paid the price. Used my Grudge both nights which was a ball I almost threw in the dumpster a few months ago because I was so frustrated with the lack of carry with it (flat 7 hell). Instead I decided to up the surface from 1000 to 2000 and went with a little slower ball speed which resulted in much better reaction. Probably a good ball to keep given that DV8 is using the same coverstock on the Turmoil that just came out.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/02/18 03:41 PM

my plan to use a Summer league for practice is working well. I am getting the ball out and letting it roll. Less of an arm that caused most of my trouble. But, I needed to regain my cadence and release timing.

But, this is a false take, as the lane conditions are set up for me to take advantage of. Long oil in the middle and good friction on the outside, narrow pattern. I'm using my weakest ball, a particle pearl, with success. Averaging 236 over 4 weeks on this very weak shot. I can't even call it a house shot.

I'm raising eyebrows with my scores, and I'm not even trying. Just focus on getting the ball to the 8 board, 45 feet downlane. And, I swear, they have lighter weight pins and shallower gutters in Summer.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/03/18 08:01 AM

Way to go Dennis.

I started my summer league by loosing my spare game. Actually this started at the end of last league. I have now abandoned my spare ball and going back to my New Standard for spares. I was missing too may multiples and left side spares. Other than splits I missed only 1 10 pin due to operator error last week with the NS.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/07/18 11:30 PM

Nice bowling Dennis. Way to take advantage of what they're giving you.

Boss - I don't use a spare ball either. Getting one as part of a ball league but I think I'm going to save it for sport shots only. On house shots I think it's a waste of a ball in the bag; just use the flood of oil in the middle to make it go straight and on opposite side spares you want it to hook a little bit anyway.

Had a pretty good week. Sunday bowled UBA at a house where I've struggled in the past and shot 259 out of the gate before finishing with 197 and 210 for 666. Tuesday I shot 230, 212, 218 for 660 on Kegel Big Ben. This is the shot they actually put down as their house shot and I get 2 free practice games per day for the whole summer just for bowling in this league.

Tonight on a much easier shot went 236, 258, 216 for 710. With the practice on the longer condition I've been working on getting the ball to roll early which allowed me to use my shiny Verdict on the standard house shot. Big difference seeing the ball reaction. Recovered from almost anywhere with great hitting power. My leaves were all single pins (unfortunately flagged two 7s).
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/08/18 05:08 PM

This week was an "average adjustment week". Haha. Shot 600 on the nose, so my average will plummet. Was a time when 600 was ok. But, its 108 under average now. Haha, I have to laugh at that.

I made every spare but left a few splits. IDK why, but, my usual carries were leaving single pins. So, the strike strings weren't there.

I think my ball rotation off my hand was different. I noticed the ball roll was not the same.
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/09/18 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: BOSStull
Way to go Dennis.

I started my summer league by loosing my spare game. Actually this started at the end of last league. I have now abandoned my spare ball and going back to my New Standard for spares. I was missing too may multiples and left side spares. Other than splits I missed only 1 10 pin due to operator error last week with the NS.
Well that didn't work well. With dryer lanes NS was too much. Back to my Sniper but trying with a new surface 4000 no polish. Thinking about bringing my Twister out of retirement since it is 16lbs. Will just have to plug and redrill my span to match.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/10/18 08:26 AM

I'm going to bake my balls today. If any oil, will get it out. Then take to new proshop to refinish all. The new guy is really good and never charges for a refinish. I tell him to, but he does it free for friends
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/11/18 08:56 AM

Well, this past week, I pulled a muscle in my back early in game 3, and was considering DNFing when my brain said, "Just take shorter steps." So I did and posted a triple that brought the game up from something close to 100 to better but still not good. Before the back issue, I whiffed a 4 pin (of all things) in the 10th of game 1 to lose the game by ONE! UGH!!
OTOH - for the 3 weeks of the "I Want My Momma" pattern I was 2nd in the league and qualify for the step-ladder this coming week. OTOOH - This week, we change to "The Great Depression" pattern... 36' which is MUCH shorter than the 1st 2 patterns. The step-ladder is right after league and will be on the Momma pattern...I will be hauling in a whole barrel-full of equipment for this session. Wish me luck!
Posted by: djp1080

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/11/18 12:51 PM

Sounds like you're the man!
Too bad about your back though. Best of luck. Take some Aleve. Hope your back holds up well...
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/11/18 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: djp1080
Sounds like you're the man!
Too bad about your back though. Best of luck. Take some Aleve. Hope your back holds up well...


wellll....I am only the 2nd man...LoL I could be #1 by the end of the step-ladder.

when I came home, I took a hydro and an advil and went to bed. I had a golf date the next AM, and got up a touch sore, took 2 aleves before golf and never felt even a twinge and my back has been fine since, even through another golf outing (2 aleves beforehand - just in case you understand). The problem isn't spinal. It is the muscle right above the right cheek. I am thinking it is golf related, cuz I just restarted playing after a 20 year layoff.
Posted by: djp1080

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/11/18 07:01 PM

Good deal!
I could tell you my golf story, but I'll skip it for now.
I didn't have a good experience on my first outing.
Learned many years later that I should drive with left handed clubs and putt with right handed clubs. End of story.
Guess with your layoff it was a bit of a strain on muscles you haven't used much over the years.
I get a little strain on the muscles or tendons above my knees. Otherwise in pretty good shape at least for bowling.
Take care...
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/17/18 06:08 AM

soooo....I ended up the 3rd man. I gave a credible showing, starting with the front 4 strikes, but the other had the front 3 and I had 2 washouts and a split down the stretch to let him back in. BOTH washes I missed by exactly ONE board, and on the split I hit my spot and the ball just jumped off the end of the pattern [shrug].

Earlier was our first go on the "Great Depression" pattern, which was MUCH shorter than the 2 previous patterns, so I had to go out to the 5 board or so, but I used pretty aggressive stuff out there. It WAS shorter, but more volume, so I didn't need the less aggressive stuff I hauled in with me. Yesterday I prebowled for this week's session and I was set up at the other end of the house, on a pair that we don't use in league. I played it pretty much in the same spot but with less aggressive-more-medium stuff. I think that the surface on that pair must be more frictiony. I shot about the same number I had on Thursday for series. [shrug again]...I DID have 3 washouts after not having any before, but picked 2 of them. both sets were in the 530 range (on my 150something average)
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/29/18 08:30 AM

I don't know where I ended up in this go 'round's step ladder...I was sitting 3rd, but had an awful session last night. The scores were depressed league wide last night. The house was resurfacing the approaches on the first 1/2 of the house, so instead of 2 matches per pair we had 3, AND we were at the end of the house we do not usually use. There are 30 of us and I think there was a total of THREE games over 200. Yuk! Off to nationals (Sunday team, Monday d/s)
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 06/29/18 11:36 AM

Good luck at Nationals. Looks like you got some good preparation though from bowling on these challenging patterns.

Hadn't really been bowling consistently the past few weeks, trying to work on some changes in my game (mainly getting more under the ball) and having issues with consistency. Tuesday night started with 139 after leaving three pocket 7-9s. It's unsanctioned, on a challenge pattern, there's no prize money, but still UGH. I actually switched to 2-handed for the remaining two games and went 220, 191 to finish the night. It was a fun little experiment and was nice having some area but by the 3rd game I kept having to chase it right and just didn't have the ball speed to stay in the pocket consistently.

Wednesday night was subbing at another house for a friend who is at Nationals so I knew I needed to do better. Put the brace back on for extra support but kept working on staying under it and giving it a little turn at the bottom. This place tends to make the shot stupid easy in the summer and it was. Moved into the oil line a bit and flung it out to the dry. 257, 256, 236 for 749. I'll take it.

Then last night in my doubles league bowling at a house that seems to be trying to save money on oil. No hold in this place the last 2 weeks and I've been under 600 back-to-back weeks. Focused on the same type of thing, getting the ball out to the left and having it come back. First game shot a clean 213, followed by 244 but then in the 3rd game struggled to carry. Left a flat 7 and tried to adjust by moving a bit outside to get it to hit higher in the pocket and left a 4-6. Then ringing 7 on the following shot which I whiffed, sitting at 75 after 5.

I knew I had to stay in the oil so focused on making the best shot I could make from that angle. Dug deep and ended up going off the sheet for 225. We were bowling the vacant and were behind after taking the first two games and my teammate was struggling so I knew I needed to keep striking to keep us in it. He struck out in the 10th after 3 straight opens which helped take the pressure off me and I was able to strike out as well. Ended up winning that game by 23. We were in 5th going into the night but only 4 points out of first place so got a chance.
Posted by: 6_ball_man

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 07/06/18 08:44 AM

well....nats was a bust...

AND when I got to the bowling alley last night, I found out I had missed the cut for the step-ladder by SIX pins....of course, my last game last week was a stellar 101...OY!

Last night was the first week on the Houdini's escape pattern...Look it up. 48' and with a wedge of oil right where you'd normally like the ball to come off the oil for that length. Coupla 170something games before my wheels came off. nertz. My opponent shot it straight up 12 the whole night an shot 617.
crud
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 07/28/18 07:53 PM

I know someone who bowled a tourney on that Houdini Pattern. Said it was a grind.

Was unhappy with my carry in recent weeks decided to see if I could make the conversion to 2-handed. Worked to a point on the 44' pattern I was bowling on; carry percentage went up but had to throw my weakest ball to keep it in play and even there wasn't consistent enough to get to the pocket. Plus my spare shooting got worse as well even if I went back to 1-handed at the spare. Tuesday I started with 3 strikes followed by 5 opens in route to a 158 game. After a 149 2nd game I officially ended that experiment and salvaged a 210 game in the 3rd one-handed.

After a good practice on Wednesday working on really just trying to get the ball into a good roll and keep my ball speed down I went on to shoot 259, 203, 246 for 708 in my Thursday league. I've been having issues with over/under in this house but was able to stay in the oil and have it go through the pins which was encouraging. Had the back 7 in the last game to secure the 700 so I'm happy with that. 2nd game would have been better if not for 2 opens on makeable spares (which was a focus of my practice session yesterday).

Lesson learned. Just needed to get the ball to slow down to strike and that was able to be accomplished with minor changes.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 08/02/18 10:36 PM

Had a good week. Tuesday started with 264 before coming back down to earth a bit with 213 and 199. Tonight was even better with 254, 247, and 266. First and second game had the front 7 (and both times left a ringing 7 and whiffed it, oops). 3rd game struck in every frame but the 3rd where I left a pocket 7-9. Too much ball speed on that one but managed to control my speed well the rest of the night.

Gotta work on spare shooting before the fall season starts but really happy with how I am throwing the ball now.
Posted by: Vic44

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 08/04/18 10:41 PM

No summer league... took time off to rest up some aches and pains. Ready for league to start, counting down .. 4 weeks
Posted by: BOSStull

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 08/18/18 10:05 AM

Just finished our summer league. It has been a terrible summer over the most part. At one time I was 20 pins under average but I was able to rebound somewhat over the last two weeks and finish at 200. Most was due to my spare shooting. I have totally gone back to using my NS for all spares except right side corner pins using the Artic Sniper. As for first ball I have corrected timing and release issues for the most part so I really feel optimistic going into the fall league.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 08/19/18 08:41 AM

Good to hear, Boss. I finished mine last week.

As I used it for competitive practice, it seems to be a success. And, I learned how to use the bank off the dry much better. On these extremely bad Summer conditions, I can't really claim scoring success. It was a given.

With health issues in the past, I have dropped 20 pins in average over 2 years. So, this 40 pin increase is a false indicator.

What it did was teach me to control my speed and focus more on my release. An extended slide and follow thru greatly helped as well.

I can do DRY lanes now. And, my hybrid LM Sting is my main ball on them.

Strange, all of my old LM balls conform to the new ball rules of the USBC. Guess, I'll stay with them.

Every Bruns, and Storm product I own, won't meet tomorrow's specs without plugging and probable redrill.
Posted by: wronghander

Re: Summer Leagues 2018 thread - 08/23/18 11:11 PM

Finished up my summer league tonight. 215, 266, and 186. Ran out of gas the last game but pretty happy with the performance. Shot played like an over/under early on but was able to find the right ball and overcome a few splits early on and string strikes in the second. Held on for high average finishing at 216. Aside from the 2 weeks where I shot 710 and 767 (where it played like I had extra hold in the middle) I really didn't feel like I had a great look at this house so I'm happy with where I ended up and I feel that I'm throwing the ball a lot better than I was at the start of the summer. Looking forward to the fall/winter season.