For Dennis

Posted by: desertdog71

For Dennis - 02/11/10 05:48 AM

Thought you might appreciate this. laugh

Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: For Dennis - 02/11/10 07:27 AM

I'm afraid that is older than I. You can tell because the above ground ball returns are every 4 lanes apart rather than 2. Typically, in the older inner City 8-lane bowling alleys, a ball return was outside of lane 1. Then there was a double return between 4 and 5 lanes. The final return was outside of lane 8.

Or another double return between 8-9 lanes with the final return outside of lane 12 in the bigger houses. Which, this appears to be.

Glad you can have some fun, at my expense.
Posted by: CoachJim

Re: For Dennis - 02/11/10 07:54 AM

Ahhh I see the new modern pin setters have just arrived in Kansas laugh
Posted by: desertdog71

Re: For Dennis - 02/11/10 11:48 AM

Well Dennis, you seem to be quite versed in the ways of pinboy duties. I was saying maybe you were a pinboy, not that you were a bowler at that time. laugh

I was just looking at some pictures of an old AMF house with the 82-30's clicking away and astroline decor. Felt like the old smoke filled places I grew up in.
Posted by: desertdog71

Re: For Dennis - 02/11/10 11:53 AM

If I buy this place here, I may dig the old telescores out of the back and set one up for laughs.
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: For Dennis - 02/11/10 12:06 PM

Hey, cut operating costs. Just get a pad of score sheets, and tear one off for each lane issued. The bowlers bring back the sheet, and you count the games to charge them. That's the way it used to be.

Oh, the pinboys were pretty adept at picking up the pins with their right hand, 2 at a time, and the ball with their left hand simultaneously. The pins would go into the set rack, and the ball was lifted to the double rail for its return.

At their hayday, the pinboys got 10 cents per line. And usually worked a pair of lanes. League nights were big money as they made $3 with 5 man teams.
Posted by: desertdog71

Re: For Dennis - 02/11/10 12:37 PM

Yeah, I used to hand out the paper scoresheets for open play, and note the frame counter start and end. On weekends I would keep score for $1.00 a game for tournaments, do that all day saturday, get my $30 and then enter the last squad. laugh I was such a degenerate. I was always up for some action. No action anymore it seems, its like pulling teeth to get a side pot going even.
Posted by: RWatson44

Re: For Dennis - 02/14/10 09:39 PM

Speaking of manual scoring, I really miss that. We have a 10 or 12 lane alley about 20 miles from here that uses score sheets still. In fact, the equipment is from 1963 and is kept in better operating condition than the newer stuff closer to home. from what I understand, it used to be the place to be about 20 or so years ago, but our culture has changed, especially in the south and it can barely stay open now days. I love the smell of the place. You just can't get the smoke smell out. It's like going back in time when I was a kid, where bowling alleys were sacred adult oriented places. I need to give them more business and take some photos for you all.

Oh, when something breaks down, they still can order parts for it. Maybe a little expensive, but still working great!
Posted by: Atochabsh

Re: For Dennis - 02/15/10 02:01 AM

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Just get a pad of score sheets, and tear one off for each lane issued. The bowlers bring back the sheet, and you count the games to charge them. That's the way it used to be.


The problem is the same as gas stations have seen with non prepay policies. YOu get too many "bowl and run". Plus most open bowlers do not know how to keep score. So auto scoring really opened up bowling to everyone, even those that don't know how to keep score.

Erin
Posted by: Dennis Michael

Re: For Dennis - 02/15/10 08:10 AM

Man, you just can't trust the people in California. They bolt out of gas stations and bowling alleys without paying. Most automatic systems, controlled at the front desk have payment options of "pay now" or "pay later". But, only the well known customers get the "pay later" option. Do you have to trade your street shoes for bowling shoes too? So, you don't steal the bowling shoes?

There is an older bowler in the Senior Group, 82 year old Joe. He says when he has breakfast at Denny's, they make him prepay cause they don't know if he will make it through the meal.
Posted by: Atochabsh

Re: For Dennis - 02/15/10 08:49 AM

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Do you have to trade your street shoes for bowling shoes too?


I've seen many centers do that. But the more common way to insure rental shoe return is to take your drivers license. And a lot of places do.
Posted by: General Pounder

Re: For Dennis - 02/15/10 09:51 AM

When I was in college, our student union lanes didn't have auto scoring. We gave them sheets. To keep from people from bowling over, there was a frame counter. We would write down the number on the sheet and then give it to them. I don't know how many times we would get people who would write down 3 games and there would be like 60 frames on the counter. They would get all bent out of shape but it was only like $1.00 a game so they would pay.

The pics above look familiar to me. When I was in HS, I bowled in a travel league. One of the places we bowled in was a 8 lane alley in the basement of a church. 3 ball returns in the house. One on each wall and one in the middle of the house. There were other ones that were 12 lanes that had the ball return up the middle of each pair. First time I was there, that really messed me up.