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#98158 - 07/16/0912:27 AMRe: Tried Free Swing, Have Some Questions
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beefers1
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Hey, I've realized now that the reason for double-bouncing the ball on my spare shots was because the ball actually hit the ground before the release, both because of the broken wrist, and that apparently I was using too much bend at the waist. Now that I have a plastic ball I think I'll try my regular release for spares; I'll see how that goes.
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#98220 - 07/16/0912:54 PMRe: Tried Free Swing, Have Some Questions
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beefers, are you sure the ball is still on your hand when it is bouncing? Most times with a slack wrist the ball will come off earlier, meaning you will have the ball coming onto the lane at a steeper angle. The steep angle can cause the ball to hop because of the sudden change in direction. That would be my guess, its just coming off the thumb and fingers early because of the release change.
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#98252 - 07/16/0907:02 PMRe: Tried Free Swing, Have Some Questions
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beefers1
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I don't think it's caused by me dropping, since I had someone look at it and it didn't seem so, but that may be the case. Of course, it's not hitting the ground while my fingers are fully in the ball, otherwise I'd probably end up with messed-up fingers, but while they're leaving the ball. I'll update as soon as I can. Thanks.
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The pros don't bend their elbows at the release, the bend their elbows before the release, then snap the elbow and wrist straight at the point of release which drives the fingers through the ball without forcing the fingers upwards.
This information confuses me a bit. It seems that it would be tough to bend your elbow during your release with a "free" swing. Doesnt the arm have to tense up at least a little bit before the release to accomplish this?
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#100497 - 08/13/0901:07 PMRe: Tried Free Swing, Have Some Questions
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Originally Posted By: MJbowler
Originally Posted By: CoachJim
The pros don't bend their elbows at the release, the bend their elbows before the release, then snap the elbow and wrist straight at the point of release which drives the fingers through the ball without forcing the fingers upwards.
This information confuses me a bit. It seems that it would be tough to bend your elbow during your release with a "free" swing. Doesnt the arm have to tense up at least a little bit before the release to accomplish this?
Think about the motion of your arm when you release a yo-yo.
#100498 - 08/13/0901:10 PMRe: Tried Free Swing, Have Some Questions
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sk8shorty01
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MJBowler, Remember that rules of thumb are for a bowler to learn to bowl, pros are quite a bit more advanced and capable of controlling muscle usage. They use gravity on the down swing to aid in bending their elbow (the ones that do bend) so that they can use little to no muscle.
League bowlers over muscle the ball completely, so taking it all away and then having them add just a touch is much easier than telling them to go from 75% muscle use (as they are) and take it back to 5%.
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I also have had a problem bouncing the ball on my strike shots. I have a high backswing and I bend forward at the waist during the approach. I thought it might be a timing issue, my ball getting to the line a bit too soon.
I am going to try to lower the swing and keep my wrist more relaxed and see if that improves the problem.
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