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#94423 - 06/07/0901:12 PMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: Muggel]
Dennis Michael
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That was actually pretty good, Muggel. Welcome.
If I would do anything, it looked like your timing came a fraction late on the later balls. but that was not significant. Your first few shots from behind looked like a carbon copy of each other. Pretty good consistency. Shot 2 from behind, as well as shot 2 from the side, you didn't project the ball as far at the release. Shot 2 from the rear hit a couple of boards inside of shot 1 and 3. But, that comes with repetition.
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#94424 - 06/07/0901:22 PMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: Muggel]
CoachJim USBC Silver Coach
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 3487
A/S/L: Reston, Virginia USA
Welcome to the site.
Your swing seems to bump out to the right of your head at the top of your back swing. A shot straight in line with your target from behind would help. It was too dark in the video to tell for sure, but it looked like your hand might be twisting to the side of the ball at the top of the swing which is causing it to bump to the right.
From the side you are sliding too far from the foul line, try moving forward a foot, if that doesn't help then try looking down at the foul line where you want to slide and see if you can get closer to the foul line that way. I would like to see you 4 to 6" from the foul line.
#94437 - 06/07/0905:46 PMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: CoachJim]
Muggel
League Bowler
Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 58
A/S/L: 43 Germany
Hi CoachJim, i have to admit i´m very surprised that you spotted my weaknesses so well. That´s exactly what i saw too,when i watched my videos the first time. i tried to abolish those errors in my last training session but they are still present. I find it hard to get the ball more behind my back or straighter in line with my target.I think the problem could be solved by opening my shoulders but i´m not a powerplayer and i´m a little afraid of loosing accuracy by opening too much! I don´t know why i´m doing that with my wrist.How can i avoid that? How can i stay more inside with my hand? I think those two mistakes are the major problems i have to work on!(Besides the distance to the foulline) Very well perceived! Do you have any tips or drills i can concentrate on ? Greetings Dirk
#94466 - 06/08/0906:26 AMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: Muggel]
CoachJim USBC Silver Coach
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 3487
A/S/L: Reston, Virginia USA
It is not a power player straight player move, it is a keeping your arm in position throughout the swing move. Did you read the article? Try doing what it says to do in the article and your arm should be in line with your head. You already start the ball under your head, just when it gets to the top of the back swing, it comes out to the right, opening your shoulder as instructed in the article should keep your arm in line with your head and target, and keep your hand behind or inside the ball to the release.
#94841 - 06/11/0910:54 AMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: CoachJim]
Muggel
League Bowler
Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 58
A/S/L: 43 Germany
Hi coach jim , i studied chris barnes in some of his Videos a little and tried to connect his game to the articel! i see his left arm flying to the back at the release .i thought it should stay more in front along with the left shoulder. Did i get something wrong there? Sorry that i have to ask once more . I find the artical very helpful an i will try to implement this into my game but i want to make sure if i get everything right ! i thought the forearm and hand should be relaxed thumb downwards and the elbow goes in front an little upward! because of the forward motion of the right arm the left arm goes in the opposite positon of course!
#94861 - 06/11/0911:48 AMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: Muggel]
mattyg3535
League Bowler
Registered: 06/09/09
Posts: 93
A/S/L: 34/M/cocoa. Fl
I do a lot of video work myself and I think the problem is much earlier as Dennis pinted out. Your push away is a little off (late). When you take your second step the heal should hit the ground as your ball is "fully" extended. This is the ideal timing you need. You do have a good crossover step to clear the ball but because your timing is late you start taking the next step and you need to swing the ball around to clear it. You need to practice that push away timing and the ball will stay under your head and behind it at the apex. Timing is so hard to practice because it always feels wrong when you are getting it right. Keep using the video. I don't know if it is possible but try to bring a laptop with you and watch the video after throw. I have a 60 frame per second cameras and a laptop that I bring during practice. I hate practicing when I think I am doing it right only to watch the video when I go home to realize I wasn't. To be honest, you don't need an alley to practice the thing you need help with. Do it at home with the cameras. Just film your push away and next step with no full swing. When you get the first 2 steps down the rest will come natural. Keep us posted.
I do a lot of video work myself and I think the problem is much earlier as Dennis pinted out. Your push away is a little off (late). When you take your second step the heal should hit the ground as your ball is "fully" extended. This is the ideal timing you need. You do have a good crossover step to clear the ball but because your timing is late you start taking the next step and you need to swing the ball around to clear it. You need to practice that push away timing and the ball will stay under your head and behind it at the apex. Timing is so hard to practice because it always feels wrong when you are getting it right. Keep using the video. I don't know if it is possible but try to bring a laptop with you and watch the video after throw. I have a 60 frame per second camera and a laptop that I bring during practice. I hate practicing when I think I am doing it right only to watch the video when I go home to realize I wasn't. To be honest, you don't need an alley to practice the thing you need help with. Do it at home with the camera. Just film your push away and next step with no full swing. When you get the first 2 steps down the rest will come natural. Keep us posted.
#94887 - 06/11/0901:41 PMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: mikhial66]
mattyg3535
League Bowler
Registered: 06/09/09
Posts: 93
A/S/L: 34/M/cocoa. Fl
If you pay close attention to the video you can clearly see his crossover step is fine but the ball has no clearance, causing his swing to loop to the right. The video is dark but the timing is late. It is not his steps but the ball push away.
#94920 - 06/11/0907:29 PMRe: Tell me what you think! Watch the Video !
[Re: Muggel]
CoachJim USBC Silver Coach
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 3487
A/S/L: Reston, Virginia USA
If your left arm is still in front of you when you let the ball go, your shoulders will be open to your target and the only way to hit it will be to pull the ball across your chest at it, which is probably the worst position you could be in at the release.
The left arm should come back naturally without pulling it, if your arm doesn't come back on it's own, you may be blocking it or muscling the right arm, if the right arm starts down prematurely you might be blocking your left arm from coming back like in the barnes video.
I did see something I missed earlier in your video, your second step (I see 4 steps, you may take 5 steps, but the first step is barely moving if at all), your second step is half as long as it should be, if you take that step longer you will end up closer to the foul line and your timing should improve as well.
If you look at the timing of your release, the ball is being released as you are sliding, your foot should come to a complete stop just before you release the ball. Increasing the length of the second step (left foot) will put the feet in time with the swing so you don't have to pull the ball through to catch up and ultimately pass your slide by.
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