I agree. Everyone else on the pair had to deal with the same thing so get over it. If you want to find excuses, you always will. Better bowlers will focus their energy on figuring out what to do in those situations. A few shots from him crossing over will not change your shot. In fact the less accurate he is, the less it will alter the shot. The pattern will break down faster from the ball being thrown in the exact same spot. You could have moved outside of him as well.

Sorry my friend, there's no one to blame for not scoring in a sport shot league other then yourself. That guy didn't affect your shot one bit, it's probably one of two things that are taking place. Your use to bowling on a house shot, which is nothing but a area shot, or your making the wrong ajustments. There are only two beefs you can have with a fellow bowler, If there putting [censored] like (eazy slide) on there shoe's, which is a no-no in the leagues I bowl in. Or disregarding the two approach rule. Other then that you shouldn't care about his equipment choice.

Not the point OLD GUYS. Trying to state the point that there are rules and there is sportsmanship. EVERYONE that draws either on this guys team or against, HATE HIM. This is the problem with the advancement of the sport, people don't care. I wanted THIS challenge not HIS challenge. If you can't see that point then you must have a 40 grit ball in your bag too. Brian Voss had this problem in the beginning of the season with another bowler burning his line up in practice. The guy was instructed by his ball rep to use a 180 grit ball and throw it as many times as he can like 2 boards left of BV. The guy never intended to play that area he just wanted to hook from 40 over to that spot. The shot was an inside shot where BV had no room right only left but the other guy took it away. Legal, YES, sportsman like, NO. Just trying to say that it is a so hard to find these conditions to work with. If you don't care about bettering you game to play the pattern, please have a little sportsmanship and allow those of us who want to learn and advance out game a chance. I don't want the be that guy that can only bowl on a house shot but if there is one guy that takes my chance away to learn on something else that just sucks. I can't believe the guys that say just think of it as a challenge. I bowl with idiots like him all the time on league and I use it to my advantage. When you pay for a spot shot or PBA experience that is supposed to be my challenge, not the old [censored] off that never learned the basics. Thanks for the idea about the eazy slide. I use a 10 slide sole. Wonder how he can bowl if he breaks his hip on my powder trail? I will make sure I use the exact approach he does and powder up every time! Now is that sportmanship? It is not against the rules just as a 40 grit ball. 2 can play! He should think of it as a challenge....right!

No, I don't have a 40 grit ball in my bag. And I don't make excuses for not scoring. I've bowled on some pretty messed up conditions, and the bottom line is, it's up to me to find a way to score.

The Voss incident was about his opponent, Chris Loschetter, burning in a shot for himself. This has been going on for years. Some guys throw plastic inside their line to give themselves a shim and some other guys throw a dull ball outside their line to give them recovery. And none of that has anything to do with what sounds to me like a bowler who isn't very good who happened to be throwing the ball all over the lane.

Like I said, if you're looking to find excuses, you're going to find them.

Actually, it is against the rules to introduce a foreign substance to the approach.

You don't want to better your game. If you did, you'd figure out a way to score no matter what. The PBA players don't whine that the lanes are too dry to throw plastic at the Japan Cup. They loft it 40 feet. Norm Duke doesn't complain when Sean Rash jumps on his line on TV in the World Championships, even though he never played there during the week. He makes good shots.

Suck it up. You say you want a learning experience, and you have one in front of you, but you curse it.

My foot is not the approach first off. That being said I would never do that because I care about the sport. Reading my last post you would have understood my point; I want the pattern as a challenge not the idiot. Why am I paying for the pattern when I could have just joined a regular house league? My gripe is that people of this mindset (me, me , me) make people not want to join leagues like this. Bigger picture!!! I would never join this league again knowing that this guy does this every year. The league is for advanced skilled players. Would you join a PBA experience where their were only kids using plastic balls and you were the only one using a reactive one. If you would then you just don't appreciate the skill it takes to bowl on a pattern so don't waste you money.
Would the PGA just play on the same course every tournament? NO, they change venues to test skills. The weather is the only unpredictable factor players have to contend with. When it rains too hard or it gets too dark they stop the game and resume when it is better for the players to perform. This guy is like the unpredictable factor in the equation. He is the reason that our sport gets no respect and is treated like a joke, so just keep defending him.

Does the guy know that he is bothering everyone in the league? Does he have friends in the league that he is bowling with? What is he averaging?

Ask yourself these two questions

1) What experience are you looking for?

2) Why do you want that experience?


Do you want to bowl on conditions that you'd never see in a tournament? Because you're definitely going to run into people burning up your line in tournaments, and it will be MUCH worse than some guy spraying a sanded ball all over the lane. You'll have multiple good bowlers repeating shots and burning up lines much faster. Imagine having 6 guys on a pair, 5 games of qualifying and you're bowling the second squad. You could even have 3 squads and no re-oiling.

What you seem to want is to practice on a condition that you have to yourself. That's not competitive bowling. Part of the game is dealing with transition caused by you and other bowlers. And again, one guy spraying a sanded ball all over the lane over the course of 2 games isn't all that bad. You're going to run into much bigger challenges than this.

You are all right and I am sorry. I can't bowl and I shouldn't join leagues or enter tournaments. I will be selling all my equipment on ebay. Look for some great deals. I am taking up a real sport, GOLF.

Well, no one said or implied that, but if you're going to react this way after a few games on a sport shot, maybe it's not for you.