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#85398 - 03/25/09 07:03 PM ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09
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Here are the two games I Videoed today. The first one is a close-up of my release. The game was 203, all closed frames, mostly 9 pin.

The next game is pulled back off my bowling shoulder. This next game was 213, all closed frames, a few more strikes.



I am reaching down a little better at the line with the ball closer to my ankle; my balance arm is working better for me. My trail leg is trying to get out from under me, but still under me too much. My first step is short. I can feel the ball brush my trailing leg once in a while now. I don’t pop-up at the line too much.
For whatever reason, I am still doing great with my spare ball.
I still have no axis tilt to speak of; the first oil ring on my ball is just touching my switch grip plastic, about 1/8" from tracking over my thumb hole.
My game scores are still decent, with my lows in the 170's highs in the 220's and once in a while knock out a 240 something.

I still throw too hard and too direct, but I do feel like I am loosing up a bit while I bowl.

Comments are always welcome and appreciated,

~ John



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#85442 - 03/26/09 09:48 AM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: ijohn83]
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One of the smaller things that I see is the pointing direction of your slide foot. It seems as though your slide foot is pointing to the right of your target line and on some shots it seems like you are trying to hold it there. Your foot should either be pointing down your target line or left of your target line as you slide. This will provide you with a better base for balance so you hopefully don't "pop up" while your body tries to rebalance itself.

I noticed on a few spare shots that your body naturally corrected your slide foot as you appeared more relaxed while picking up the spares. Take a peek at the following times in your video for examples: 2:23, 2:40, 2:55, 3:55. Now compare those slide feet with your strike balls smile

Here's a nice article for your reading:

http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip25.htm

I hope my insight helps.
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#85445 - 03/26/09 10:06 AM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: Let1Hang]
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I think Let1Hang brought up a good point. I would definitely look into fixing up that slide foot because having your foot turned in like that is putting a huge strain on your left knee. There is also a chance of you tearing your Meniscus if you stick and lose your balance.

Check out this article on the Meniscus, what it does, and how it can become torn:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/meniscusinjuries1/a/meniscus.htm
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#85447 - 03/26/09 10:06 AM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: sk8shorty01]
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention you are greatly improving in every video, keep up the good work!
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#85480 - 03/26/09 02:41 PM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: sk8shorty01]
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Wow Let1Hang! Thanks for that article. It described me and my bowling problems start to finish.

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#85487 - 03/26/09 03:19 PM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: ijohn83]
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What I noticed that you can still work on is not turning the ball early and breaking your wrist back. Your fingers should be close to the middle of the ball, and as you can see, you're already around it and on top of it.


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#85511 - 03/26/09 06:26 PM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: Lefty]
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Thanks Lefty.
I know I still turn early. I'm hoping it is related to still accelerating at release instead of just letting the ball swing through. When I quit pushing maybe I can keep behind the ball.
If you have a chance would you post a picture of my spare shot release like the one above? I'm just curious if it looks any different.
As Let1Hang mentioned above my spare shot is more relaxed than my strike shot. I know for my spare shot the wrist needs to be straight and firm until the release point where it then can break back. If the wrist breaks back early it is too easy to miss inside or outside and thatís all I know and think about when spare shooting.
When it comes to my strike shot I have a million thoughts of what I should do/don't do/would like to do/can't do - going though my head. One of them is that assume slow-mo release someone posted of Wes Malott.
I think it might be beneficial to post a picture of me trying to through a back-up ball and look at my wrist position.

~ John

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#85513 - 03/26/09 06:52 PM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: ijohn83]
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Your wrist is still pretty broken and you still turn it early.

The only way you stop forcing the ball is to stop forcing it. You have to take your arm muscles out of the equation, not matter how strange it feels or how bad a shot results from it. You won't ever know how it feels and be able to execute it until you make yourself use no arm muscles.


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#85516 - 03/26/09 07:28 PM Re: ijohn83 (Practice check) 03-25-09 [Re: ijohn83]
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I really like the way you are throwing your spares. Your swing is much more relaxed than on your strike ball. I think you are over thinking the reaching down and through the bottom of the ball.

Reaching down and through the bottom of the ball is next to impossible if you don't bend your knees. You keep bending at the waist too much and not getting enough knee bend which is torquing your knee. Be nice to the ball, stop trying to do too much and just let the ball swing and keep your hand behind the ball and let it roll off your hand.

Reaching down and through the ball should coordinate with the knee bend. Let the ball swing back without pulling it back. Start bending your right knee before you go into the next to last step.


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