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#85324 - 03/25/09 07:19 AM Re: My son, Learning new approach [Re: Atochabsh]
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please forgive my ignorance like I said been about 20 years since I bowled used to be avid bower 4 leagues a week but never received any instruction. By firm wrist do you mean with arm down wrist should be facing pins forming an L shape with his arm? Bottom of L being wrist and hand?

As far as the weight of the ball goes yes I have been having him do curls to help build strength as well as wrist curls poor kid was blessed with my long lanky arms and long skinny hands. When I bowled I would start with 15 lb balls then switch to 14 lb after second game you think I would have gotten huge lugging six balls around lol
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#85326 - 03/25/09 07:34 AM Re: My son, Learning new approach [Re: Rocket]
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The face of his palm should be facing the pins. If you look at his swing now, as soon as he sets the ball into the swing, his wrist breaks back and his palm is facing the floor. Another way to think of it is that his hand should be on the back of the ball opposed to the top of it.

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#85335 - 03/25/09 10:36 AM Re: My son, Learning new approach [Re: Lefty]
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Another way to explain the "firm" wrist and what it should look like. If you look at him from the side, he back of the wrist should be straight with the back of the forearm (at the least) or a little cupped. An "L" shape is too far, as then you are over forcing your body and that can lead to injuries if you are not careful. A straight wrist would be a good start, just getting straight is hard enough but slightly cupped is what most go for.

Hope that makes sense.
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#85337 - 03/25/09 10:48 AM Re: My son, Learning new approach [Re: Lefty]
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Oh Ok I see it now. Now I want to make a list of things to work on.

First I will get his fit rechecked his thumb hole does seem a bit loose maybe hand was a bit swelled when fitted it was right after bowling 3 games.

Second of course let the coach finish working on his four step approach until they both feel comfortable that he has the steps down.

Third work on ball position at start

Fourth wrist position

Of course 1 at a time as others have mentioned don't want to mess up his mental game trying to fix to much at once. Does this seem like a reasonable course of action? And again will not offer advice to coach if he wants to work on other things not on my list. That is the good thing about Jordan he pays very good attention to the coach and is usually able to do what is asked of him very quickly.
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#85341 - 03/25/09 10:59 AM Re: My son, Learning new approach [Re: Rocket]
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About the thumb hole....

Kids hands are notoriously damp and moist. This means that they tend to hang up in the ball. Usually this results to a trip to the ball driller to have it opened up. Then when they start bowling the thumb hole is too big, and too small when they finish. He might just need to use a "puff ball" to help keep his hands dry. But have the hole checked. But have it checked BEFORE he bowls.

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