heh heh Smooth....I was gonna say *I* would be afraid to grow up in a family that utilized capital punishment on their children

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA,TAHOMA">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA,TAHOMA">Originally posted by Mary Allen:
I agree with you guys to a certain extent. But there are some people that don't seem to realize that Randy was bowling for money and had a lot riding on the line. I think from what I observed in in general about today's generation is that most people lack consideration for the other person and a lack of manners and respect. Us league bowlers are not in the situation where Randy was where he had everything on the line. I guess that I'm just too old schooled but right is right, people should have been considerate of Randy's wishes the first time there was an incident. And the PBA should do something to fans who just flash their cameras at a bowler's most crucial time. I think that they should only allow photos taken at certain time. And the tv finals was definately not the time and place to flash cameras. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA,TAHOMA">I agree with some of what has been said on this thread about Randy Pederson. Especially what Coachrich and Erin commented was right on the money. I think Pros are sometimes too coddled and not forgetting the lane conditions the environment is too sterile.

But look at Mary Allen's, comments: Big money was on the line and Randy was potentially bowling for his professional career... his future was at stake on that shot.

The commentator said that it was a cough, but I heard a rather loud thud when I replayed the recording. But all in all this could not be seen as an interference so let us learn from this incident that such tirades serve only to reveal that we have weaknesses.

It was wrong for Randy Pederson to respond like he did. He should've told one of the crew to handle the situation. Maybe make an announcement to the fans about moving and keeping quiet. That being said, I think it's the PBA's fault! Why? Because the PBA is trying to promote the Tour like if it's a major sport (football, basketball, baseball,). Why have the finals in an arena or stadium? Why not have them at "bowling centers" like they used to? Why put seats along side the lanes the bowlers are bowling on? The people are so close to the lanes, I'm surprised this has not happened more often. The PBA should get back to the way they used to do the finals, having everyone sit in back of the bowlers!

Finally someone who thinks like I do. Thank goodness I'm not alone. Thanks for backing me up Bad comapany. Boy for a while there I felt I was all alone with this point of view. I think the PBA should still promote it like a major sport, but in a setting like where it belongs in the bowling center not an arena.

One point, much like Del Ballard's gutter ball became the defining moment of that particular tournament; Randy's emotional outpouring might be the defining moment of the 2005 ToC.

Not the superb bowling of - gosh I've forgotten his name already - Steve Jaros, (sorry Steve) nor the consummate sportsmanship shown by Norm Duke despite the disappointment of coming so close to another major.

In a few years time we might all remember Randy and forget the other participants, which would be a shame.

And finally I hope the PBA are not too hard on Randy, after all we are only human, it made for great TV and (in the US at least because not many people saw it elsewhere) it was no doubt a great “water cooler” moment.

Remember in 1994 or 95 Bob Learn's record setting arena outing in his hometown Erie, PA. Bob ask for and recieved an interference call because a fan moved in their seat at his shooting a 10-pin. Whenever I view this tape that comes off as a red stain on the whole proceedings.

I was at the show and I didn't hear anything.
Randy made a good shot and should have struck.
He didn't and lost. The way Jaros was lined up in practice, no one was going to beat him anyway. He just didn't miss.