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#8363 - 04/13/05 01:33 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
Buck Rabbit Offline
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Just a few thoughts on this.

Despite the distraction, he didn't make a bad shot. He did much better than Tiger Woods did the same day when he went ahead and shot his second shot into the bunker on 17 when the car alarm went off for the second time. Tiger backed off the first time the car alarm went off, then decided to try to ignore it the second time and shot a real stinker.

While I can't confirm this, people who claim to have been there claim that it was not an accidental cough and that the noisemaker celebrated the miss. It is widely reported that the person was escorted out which would have been unlikely if it was simply an accidental cough.

If it was an intentional attempt to distract, I would have been mad whether I missed and made the strike, but if I made it the exhilaration of the tie probably would have distracted my focus on throttling the perpetrator until later.

I wonder what Marshall Holman would have done?
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#8364 - 04/13/05 02:05 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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Holman would have charged the audience, taken a video camera from one of the guys one the floor, and throttled the person on National TV, while Yelling.......COUGH NOW BI$$$!!!!

Ok so that is a little over teh top, but a few years back before I got my temper in check, that is probably what I would have done.

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#8365 - 04/13/05 03:03 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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I watched it on Strike Pass last night; I did feel a bit sorry for Randy, he put everything into that game and just did not get the break when he needed it most.

I guess he should just have bit his tongue and put it all down to experience but it must have been a crushing disappointment for him which no doubt led him to say things that he would not normally say.

He probably thought that it was his week with the sudden re-instatement and bowling so well to make the telecast, now if he wants to gain exemption next year he needs to bowl tour trials which will be no fun. Still itís an ill wind as they say and Tore lives on.

It was certainly an excellent telecast, I love watching Norm Duke, he is a little guy like me (although I am a bit more rotund) and he makes it look so easy. He just has the knack of working things out but in the end he came up against an inspired Jaros and a pocket 7-10. Also donít mean to decry Steve Jaros but he is one of those pros who you sort of think ďwell I could do thatĒ. I canít of course but even at my age I can dream!

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#8366 - 04/13/05 04:15 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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I'm happy that Jaros won his major finally, I have bowled with him at Fox Lanes a lot since he starting bowling on the Tour, even since before that. He still drills my equipment for me when he comes home to see the wife and kids at their new house.

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#8367 - 04/13/05 06:42 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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I'm thrilled for Jaros too. A couple of weeks ago, when his wife and twins were in the stands, my heart ached. It was the quiet statement that it might be the last time they see Daddy on TV. By winning a major, I'm very eager he'll be on Tour for another year. Jaros is the type of player that is very fan friendly, and remembers a fan between tournaments.
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#8368 - 04/13/05 11:39 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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I am happy Jaros won also. Good for him on his first major! I recorded the show on TiVo, I didn't hear anything, although it is apparent it happened. I felt it was a great shot and should have carried. I would hope that someone is not so low as to intentinally cough just to ruin another persons hopes at such a great accomplishment. Very sad. Norm had a tough break, too. Man, that guy is a class act. I thought it was cool when he, "Shished", the crowed so Jaros could finish up. Outstanding.............
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#8369 - 04/13/05 11:54 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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The "young man in yellow" was probably not paying attention but at least he showed that he realised his mistake and that it wasn't intentional and sat back down.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA,TAHOMA">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA,TAHOMA">Originally posted by Buck Rabbit:
While I can't confirm this, people who claim to have been there claim that it was not an accidental cough and that the noisemaker celebrated the miss. It is widely reported that the person was escorted out which would have been unlikely if it was simply an accidental cough.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA,TAHOMA">What's wrong with people these days, is it really funny or enjoyable to cost someone his career? That's just plain cruel.
Could the person have been betting or something?
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#8370 - 04/14/05 03:24 AM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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Finally someone who here agrees with me on this subject matter. I completely agree with you on this Flamenco. I hope that you read one of my posts on this matter. People of this generation just show total disregard for the other person. And that's one of my pet peeves that I just can't stand is somebody being flat out rude and inconsiderate. I often wonder what's wrong with people of that mentality. At first my first instinct would be to find this person who made the noise and meet him outside and then beat the stew out him. And then look at him through his eyes and then ask him "Do you really realize that you cost me an exemption and my career. What the heck is wrong with you? Didn't your parents teach you any manners at all on how to be considerate or are they the same as you?" But then I realize at the same time that beating the stew out of this person would not solve anything and that it won't change him, but then this person just hasn't messed with the right person. Just my tow cents worth.

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#8371 - 04/14/05 05:56 AM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
Flamenco Offline
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Registered: 09/02/04
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Agreed Mary Allen.
I believe that such disgusting behaviour exists in people of all ages. But I think that this attitude is more apparent in the latest generation due to a lack of good parenting(or any at all).

Parents these days are just kept too busy trying to provide a good life for their children that they loose sight of what is more important: good morals and a good code of ethics to live by. Many shun the responsibilities of proper parenting and instead placing the blame squarely on the media, games, music and whatever else they can think of.


Back to the topic of Randy:
I've read many of the previous posts and I agree that Randy is a professional and should hold himself to a higher standard, HOWEVER he is still human. Right now it seems like he needs to win to prove to himself and the world that he is not over the hill and 'just' a commentator.

Naturally in such a position there is much more stress involved. Add to it that the TOC was his last chance this season for an exemption through a win and the need to strike out in the 10th frame there is immense pressure and stress involved! Not to mention the huge prize money.

Then there is the factor of human perception. For example: Like no one can ignore a flashlight in a dark room; it's the same in the arena setting, everyone remains dead silent and motionless then suddenly there is some movement or a noise, it just jumps out at you.

Yes his behaviour was bad. But please try to empathise more with Randy's plight and not just dismiss his behaviour at face value.
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#8372 - 04/14/05 01:12 PM Re: What happened to Randy Pedersen Sunday?
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Ya know, I don't often loose my cool in this forum and I try to keep it light (humorous).

But, if we're going to make general (and negative)statments about people and "this generation"...count me out.

Rich Williams
I'm old...but alive...previous generation?
(and proud of the "current generation" whatever age group that would be.)
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