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#75463 - 01/13/09 02:57 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: General Pounder]
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shocked All I have to say to that is wow. I don't think I've had anything like that happen to me, and if I did, I probably remember it quite well.

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#75464 - 01/13/09 03:00 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: Mkirchie]
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I think I said wow along with a bunch of other words that would get censored on here. Oh well. You live and you learn.
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#75469 - 01/13/09 05:16 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: General Pounder]
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Funny that you mention that ad luck GP. It was just practice but my driller had left 3 7-10s in a row on the right lane one time. It was crazy.

#75478 - 01/13/09 07:54 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: Jay R.]
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When WRW threw that ball and left the 8-10 I sent and received a text message and both of those said "wow.."

It was weird.

#75488 - 01/13/09 10:02 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: General Pounder]
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Originally Posted By: General Pounder
I think I said wow along with a bunch of other words that would get censored on here. Oh well. You live and you learn.

Me too.

I was (as PA was) in complete shock when I saw Deadeye leave the 8-10, but when I reviewed the shot on the YouTube link I provided on this thread, it hit kinda weak when it got to the pocket. It might have also rolled out and lost its energy as it hit the pins.

I also have a hunch that Walter Ray was using 15-pound equipment, thinking that the technology of today's balls would be enough, but as you saw when he left the 8-10, he either missed it in the bottom, or got into the (remaining) oil on the Cheetah pattern, and the ball just never picked up down lane, and as a result, his MoRich Response deflected a bit too much, and that was what cost him the title IMO.
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#75503 - 01/13/09 11:59 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: BIGHMW]
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I don't think weight was a factor in the leave. I've left many more weak (and stone) 8-10's with 16 pound equipment than I have with 15 pound equipment. My personal experience aside, I think he just pushed it a bit too much and didn't hit high enough in the pocket to carry the 8 or 10. If you notice the strike he threw prior to the 8-10, it was high flush and had some "mustard" on it. The second ball was a little more in the pocket (not as high flush) with nearly the same speed.

Now, it may very well be that the 5 or 8 was off spot, but you either take a re-rack if you can or adjust your target accordingly. Don't complain after the fact. I really think he just threw it too flat in the pocket and the 5 slid in front of the 8. Either way, it wasn't really a quality shot - not compared to what he made the first ball in the 10th.

Just my observation, though.
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#75508 - 01/14/09 01:04 AM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: Brian Longo]
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Just a Note on WRW leaving 8-10, he noted that he missed left and didnt hit the target he did on the first ball in the 10th.

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I drifted a hair left on the second ball and didnt get it to the right spot, seeing the 8-pin standing was like somebody shot me, Williams said. I got a few good breaks this week, I just needed one more.
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#75522 - 01/14/09 07:20 AM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: Brandon510]
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#75532 - 01/14/09 09:44 AM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: CoachJim]
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haha, CoachJim thats great!
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#75553 - 01/14/09 01:08 PM Re: Patrick Allen - Storm & Hammer? [Re: sk8shorty01]
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I hate to laugh at that, Jim, but that is hilarious
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