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#75359 - 01/12/09 09:05 PM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: sk8shorty01]
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what i see is that when you are about to deliver the ball you seem to tense up and muscle the ball and as you release you pull up alot... hot that little bit will help
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#75476 - 01/13/09 06:33 PM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: JBB817]
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So I went to practice a bit today and *tried* to get that knee bend in there. You can still see me popping a bit, but I really tried to force myself to stay down. In the video I'm still moving my feet fast, but I did start the day trying to slow down. However my timing with my armswing was completely off at that point and I figured it wasn't worth it to make everything overly complicated todya. So this is just me trying to stay a bit lower at the foul line.



Any comments?
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#75497 - 01/13/09 10:59 PM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: JBB817]
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Your shoulders are pulling up to level with the floor, keep your right shoulder down so the ball will swing tighter to your body and not pull away from your ankle like it is. You start off in good posture, but as the ball comes down from the top of the back swing, you pull up with your shoulder as the ball approaches the release zone. Reach down and through your target and let the ball swing without pulling it and see if that doesn't help.

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#75502 - 01/13/09 11:30 PM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: CoachJim]
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I used to have exactly the same problem / problems.

1. Forced Armswing
2. Backswing reaching too far behind your back
3. Releasing away from the ankle.

My advice is to slow down your approach. Standing nearer to the foul line will help. Muscle memory sets in when you stand too far, causing to make bigger steps to reach the foul line. The 3rd and the sliding step is crucial for you to keep low. Here, we called it the "Power Step".


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#75521 - 01/14/09 07:11 AM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: Columbee]
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My advice is to slow down your approach. Standing nearer to the foul line will help. Muscle memory sets in when you stand too far, causing to make bigger steps to reach the foul line. The 3rd and the sliding step is crucial for you to keep low. Here, we called it the "Power Step".


I do not advise slowing your feet down at all. The speed of your feet is dictated by the timing and speed of your armswing. Slowing the feet down without adjusting the armswing will cause you to slow your swing down to match up and kill your ball speed.

If you slow your feet down you will tend to have even cadence to the foul line and lose the power step as all of the steps will be of even size.

The distance you should stand from the foul line is determined by standing with your heels on the dots behind the foul line and taking 5 steps back toward the setee area, the steps should be normal walking steps for a 5 step delivery take 6 steps. Many of you who try this, will find that you should be starting at or in front of the front set of dots. I can't tell you how many people I see that stand at the back of the approach and take only 4 steps. Your steps should be normal walking steps, not giant galloping steps.

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#75528 - 01/14/09 08:52 AM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: CoachJim]
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I agree with you there CoachJim. I start about 3 inches behind the first set of dots (12 feet) and I am using a five step approach. There are a lot of people that bowl in leagues I bowl in that start behind me and they are using a four step. My coach had me use the stepping method from the foul line (walking towards the concourse) and I will say that it works great. I still do it about every few months just to make sure that nothing in my approach has changed in my body structure or walking pattern.
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#75583 - 01/14/09 08:33 PM Re: First Video, All help appreciated [Re: sk8shorty01]
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Thanks for the further input guys. Definitely gives me something to work with. I'll figure out where to start standing and try to keep that shoulder down next time I go practice.
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