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#74570 - 01/05/09 07:19 AM Any help would be great
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Had first lesson with a coach. He recorded these clips of me.




I'm off balance at the end because I'm forcing the ball down the lane. When I stay relaxed and adjust to the right spot, I stay down and hold my position at the end. I also noticed that my arm goes away from my body on the backswing, but then corrects itself at the end. This has never bothered me or my game. Could my game improve if I corrected this?



I've never really pushed away...but I'm working on it.






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#74575 - 01/05/09 08:46 AM Re: Any help would be great [Re: DBowler]
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All of the problems that I see are caused by muscling the ball. The ball never has a chance to swing freely - it affects your swing path, your footwork, your release, and your balance. If I had to guess, your ball doesn't fit right - it looks like you have a death grip, and it falls off early even then. You should have your grip re-evaluated - you shouldn't have to hold on to the ball for it to stay on your hand. Once the ball is holding on to you, work on a free arm swing. Gravity should do the work of swinging your ball for you.

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#74578 - 01/05/09 01:59 PM Re: Any help would be great [Re: cgeorg]
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^I second that.

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#74581 - 01/05/09 02:41 PM Re: Any help would be great [Re: coasterlover420]
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I would work on relaxing your grip. You might even want to check your span to see if it is ok. You should get a push away that way the ball can fall freely, and you won't have so many balance problems.
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#74585 - 01/05/09 02:57 PM Re: Any help would be great [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Like they said, just relax and let the ball swing, get that part down and then your arm swing, and then you can work on your release.
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#74606 - 01/05/09 06:24 PM Re: Any help would be great [Re: Justinmill14]
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I have to agree with the others here. Work on keeping muscle out of your arm swing and everything else should work itself out. I think that you "falling off" your shot at the end of each release happens due to pulling the ball into the downswing and through the release. The momentum of pulling the ball so much is pulling your body off balance and causing you to have to step to the side to stop from falling over.

Just remember, less is more when it comes to your armswing and release, the least amount you can do to get a clean release, the better.
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#74645 - 01/06/09 07:42 AM Re: Any help would be great [Re: DBowler]
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The biggest thing I see for you to work on is letting the ball swing. In your push away the ball almost comes to a complete stop at about 4:30 in your back swing, then you pull it back the rest of the way. Practice swinging the ball back and forth from your shoulder and let the weight of the ball swing your arm.

Past that your timing, foot work, wrist position (except for the fact that you turn it early because of forcing the swing), all look pretty good.

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#74669 - 01/06/09 11:32 AM Re: Any help would be great [Re: CoachJim]
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I really do squeeze the heck out of the ball. I'll make sure to loosen up a lot. I'll also be working on my pushaway. Thanks everyone

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#74671 - 01/06/09 11:48 AM Re: Any help would be great [Re: DBowler]
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The best way to keep yourself from squeezing while practicing and getting a feel is to push your thumb nail gently against the back wall of the thumb hole. Assuming the ball fit is good, this will keep the ball secure to your hand during the swing, but will keep you from being able to bend your thumb to grip it when its not needed. If the ball is falling off really early you might need to add some tape.
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#74672 - 01/06/09 11:49 AM Re: Any help would be great [Re: sk8shorty01]
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Forgot to add, I have always been told the amount of grip pressure you want to employ in your game is similar to that of holding an egg in your hand. If you grip to tight the egg will break, so remember your grip is fragile and clean, not hard or unbalanced.
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