While I did get a new ball for Christmas. The Venus is made for lighter amounts of oil and I need my medium oil ball. The problem arises in that my Black Widow is 16 pounds and I can't manipulate it as well as my Venus or Scout. So I was going to go with a 15 pound Hy-Road to replace it, but our sub today was throwing an Up-Rising and now I'm stuck. I don't which would be a better fit into my arsenal.

A little help please. The Hy-Road or the Up-Rising?

Hmm... I know other people have their opinions on this subject but I feel particularly interested in this topic because I own an Uprising. Personally, I don't know much about the Hy-road. The Uprising is a great ball. The best thing about it is the carry. That ball, with its single density core, even at 15# which I use, hits like a train! I have never bowled a ball that smacks so hard. The ball actually has a decent amount of length on its factory finish but what's great about it is that even with that polished up solid surface, the length goes for a while then skid/Flip all the way, with a sick angular kick back. Pretty forgiving as well! For my arsenal, I actually took the surface to 2000 unpolished to read the midlane earlier and use it more for higher oil volumes. I already owned a great mid ball and didn't want to spend anohter 200 bucks on a high oil ball, though the striking motion or The One remake has caught my eye recently, so I roughed up the surface on the Uprising. still hits like a truck.

Personally, I like the uprising a lot. Haven't bowled the hy-road but have heard a lot about it. If it means anything to your decision, the uprising has sold like hotcakes at my locla Pro Shop. So bad that at one point they sold the display ball to be drilled up! Track had a Demo Days a couple months ago at the lanes I bowl and they knocked the price down on the uprising from $210 drill and all to $185 drill and all. They sold like 18 or so of them just that night! The next day, since I knew the Pro Shop well, they honored the sale price and added one more to that total. A lot of bowlers seem to like the uprising and I must admit, the logo looks sweet lol!

But I would watch the ball action videos on youtube of both balls. BuddiesProShop does a fantastic job of showing the reaction and whether or not the ball is forgiving as well as the hitting power

No contest.....heavier oil (as the BW original was marketed)

Original Cell or Storm Virtual Gravity. If you want more angular go VG. If you are more confortable with arc and drive, go Cell. Not Cell Pearl; orginal Cell.

I suggest dull balls because the BW original was fairlly dull and early rolling.

If you want someting longer and more angular then that, then yes the Hy Road or Cell Pearl, or Black Widow Pearl would be better; IMO. I cannot even count how many Black Widow Pearls we have sold.

When the original Black Widow came out, it was huge. Undisputed ball of its time for years. But the Black Widow Pearl has got its predicessor hands down on reaction and versatilit for use in various bowlers' styles. Its a totally different ball then the original BW. Those that were not totally sold on the original BW, love the BW Pearl. But the Cell Pearl is no slouch either.

Erin

I really do like the BW pearl. I like the Cell a lot to but I didn't realize the BW pearl was used for higher oil volumes? I've seen its crazy kick off the dry but being a pearl I didn't think it would work so well in high oil? I thought the Cell would fit better for high oil. am I just reading your post wrong or are they both decent on higher oil volumes?

With two balls intended for lighter volumes, I think you'd be better served by adding a solid ball as opposed to another pearl. Hy-Road wouldn't be bad either, but a solid intended for medium/heavy will give you more options.

The good or bad news is that there are plenty of options in that segment of the market. As you can see in my sig., I have three different balls that would fall into that category. With different surface treatments and drillings they all offer me something totally unique from the others.

I had already planned on getting a 15# Cell. Hopefully in April or May as a birthday present before Nationals. So no worries there, but right now I'm not comfortable throwing my 16# Widow and I need a new benchmark ball because the conditions early in the night are just well suited for my Venus or Scout and I can still throw the Widow well but not as well as I know I could if it were 15#s.

Thanks for the replies. I was looking at the specs on the two balls I mentioned, and I noticed that getting the Hy-Road would probably not be the best idea seeing that I already have a Pearl Particle ball for the lighter conditions.

So now I'm still stuck, Up-Rising or BW Solid? I like the arching type of reaction so I think that either of them would suit me well, but could I venture as far to say that the Up-Rising is the BW Solid of its year? Plus do you think the Up-Rising has more maintanence than the BW Solid or about the same?

I forgot to add to my last post, if there are any other of these types of dull solid balls that anyone else feels would suit me please mention them. I have a very open mind about this and would like to get a ball that will fit into my arsenal really well. So by all means speak up.

Demo, if you are going to Nationals, you will need a ball for heavy oil, a dull solid, a polished solid, like the uprising, and a strong pearl like the Cell pearl. The most important ball to have is a spare ball and to be able to shoot straight at your spares since you will not get much practice to hone your spare shots in and open frames cost money.

Coach,
First my spare ball is easy, Scout Reactive. I have been throwing it straight at everything. I come underneath the ball, with my little finger exstended and my index finger in. I pretty much have everything on lock (if I execute right) except the baby split and 3-6-10.

Coach you're saying, I need something like the Cell, the BW Solid, the Uprising, the Cell or BW Pearl or the Playmaker for my arsenal? Also I was looking at the Uprising's stats. It says that its 4000 Abralon sanded on one site, and polished on another, what's up with that? Is it sanded or polished?

Regardless, right now I'm more worried about replacing my benchmark ball now and improving my technique overall (consistent free swing and release work), as well as, hitting all of my spares. And like I said I have and can get most of my spares if I execute right.

By Nationals, I hope to have maybe two more balls. One being the Cell and the other my benchmark ball. But thanks for the heads up. I could maybe swing another ball but I'd rather use that money on shoes with interchangable soles and heels.

The Uprising is most definitely 4000 polished. I own it and assure you that's true.

I know I have already said it once, but if you are worried about the stats and reactions of the balls, go onto youtube and type in the search box the brand and the ball. Ex. Track Uprising. Look for the video that is brought to you by BuddiesProShop. I can assure you that the videos are nice and show you some useful info. A lot of times, they will pull the ball out further and further to test how forgiving the coverstock is. Also, you will see the hook action, either arc or skid/Flip, as well as the hitting power of the ball shredding the rack. What's nice that they don't always leave in just the strike balls. If the ball misses or hits pocket but doesn't carry they leave that in usually to show what happens.

It could be useful to look up both the Track Uprising and the BW solid to compare.