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#71919 - 12/02/08 05:48 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: JedC]
Dennis Michael Offline
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Nothing against you, eastwest. My comment actually went to the post before yours. Yes, humans are emotional. But, their choice of words used exemplifies things like their level of maturity, mental capacity, expertness, accomplishment, and sometimes their lack of formal consciousness, education, and literacy.

Believe it or not, the words you select say a lot about you. And, the perception you leave with the listener defines your formal cognizance.

As bowlers, many of us are already thought of as portly, beer drinkers. Unintelligent boor is NOT something I wish to be called.
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#71928 - 12/02/08 06:42 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael


Believe it or not, the words you select say a lot about you. And, the perception you leave with the listener defines your formal cognizance.

As bowlers, many of us are already thought of as portly, beer drinkers. Unintelligent boor is NOT something I wish to be called.


Nor I. I like how Dennis is kind of touching on the Buddhist teaching of Right Speech without knowing it (or perhaps knowing about it). I think great deal of people nowadays would benefit from Right Speech especially the part about not babbling. grin


Edited by TheDemolitionMan (12/02/08 06:43 PM)
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#71930 - 12/02/08 07:08 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Well, Buddha and I have a lot in common. We grew up together, and went to the same school.

Paulie "Buddha" Kaminski, that is.


Edited by Dennis Michael (12/02/08 07:10 PM)
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#71933 - 12/02/08 07:22 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
Well, Buddha and I have a lot in common. We grew up together, and went to the same school.

Paulie "Buddha" Kaminski, that is.


Ha Ha...You're funny Dennis. rotfl grin
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#71959 - 12/03/08 04:52 AM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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humm demo you made me google something today thank you. i was looking for something to google and wiki. laugh thumbsup
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#71993 - 12/03/08 03:00 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: 180fury]
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First off, the standard disclaimers: I wasn't offended, I was a bit surprised, I've never really understood wearing the mics, and do wish all professional athletes projected themselves...um...professionally.

That said, I'm in the "double standard is the bigger issue" camp, and am surprised that the double standard was only barely touched upon by a couple others. Tiger was mentioned, as was some one punching a wall out of anger, but what about all the violence displayed by football players, hockey players, soccer players (um, the soccer fans!), etc? And many of those are seen on broadcast TV. Would you rather be exposed to strong emotional language, or some one with a broken nose spewing blood from a fist fight? Or maybe that is *exactly* what bowling needs...full contact drama! (ok, not really...I don't know what bowling really needs, if I ever figure it out, I will let everyone know).

I tend to watch football at work (tends to be the only thing on and I don't have control of the TV) and have lost track of the number of times I've seen a player / players shoving and getting physical with each other after a play is over. Same for hockey, fans can't get enough of the fights that often break out, and the networks aren't censoring those. And nobody has even mentioned the likes of the UFC which along with it's "reality" show gives the impression of short tempered always angry ready to fight to the death people.

I agree it is natural to express frustration or anger, and I agree that how it is expressed is a learned response. So is it better to be exposed to swearing under your breath (and sometimes a bit louder), or to go beat the [fill in the blank] out of somebody?

The best answer is probably "neither". But we all know that isn't going to happen.
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#72020 - 12/03/08 06:39 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: TenPin_]
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Football and hockey are natural aggressive violent contact sports, so any fights to come of it are just a tad above the normal contact for the sport. You can't compare that to a non contact sport like bowling or golf. Basketball is slightly less violent since they try to reduce contact but it happens. Baseball is less even violent though and they do show the shouting matches and the brawls that breakout on TV at least briefly.
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#72025 - 12/03/08 07:24 PM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: Calvin Pistorio]
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I understand both sides of this story. Certainly everyone reacts differently and some people are as has been said more colorful and use more colorful language. That being said I think when you are a professional and on a professional telecast you should be held to a standard that is different from the everyday Joe in a league.

Me personally I do not cuss when bowling. I have become very good at keeping my negative emotions under control and try not to react too much when a throw a bad shot.
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#72051 - 12/04/08 04:42 AM Re: More swearing on ESPN... [Re: Scott Gannon]
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hockey rules ! hunstville havoc is my team to watch but i watch it on TV a lot. thats my sport to watch. and ufc. i work with a guy that fights. and i can tell you that you don't tell him that his sport stinks. he takes it really serious. scott's a big guy and knows his way around a ring thats for sure.
sorry i seem to love violent sports. being in the south it seems to be a rule here. but bowling isn't violent unless you make it that way. i can only imagine it but can't see it. pros shouldn't be held to no standard. they make money to do things we do for free. makes no sense. i pay they play ??? why? but thats a whole different topic there. they should just be there selfs. thats what i would want to be if i was a pro. i'm a pro at video games about it. laugh
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