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#71394 - 11/24/08 05:20 PM Robert Smith's pain
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Do you all feel this is likely caused by bowling, or merely stemming from something else and only aggravated by the activity? It's a bummer to hear he may have to retire.

Seems like it'd be something genetic/pre-existing if multiple forms of therapy haven't helped. Perhaps it's attributed to his "power play" style.

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#71399 - 11/24/08 05:36 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: eastwest]
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I don't really know because there isn't specific info about it. All I know is that his back and hip hurt and usually when he is bowling they flare up. He tries to hide it, but you can tell. His "Power Play" style of bowling definately isn't helping. I mean he has trouble bowling on a daily basis and has dropped out of two events already because of the amount of pain he is in.
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#71407 - 11/24/08 06:16 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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I think bowling is part of the issue, maybe not all of it. As it's already known, bowling does cause the pain to flair up which is a huge issue for a Pro bowler.
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#71419 - 11/24/08 08:45 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: Calvin Pistorio]
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He has been surrounded by injuries most of his career. So i dont think his power playing style is helping it. Cause it seems after he has recovered from injury and get back to bowling on tour it flairs up. Probally the amount of games the pro's bowl and his hi rev power player sytel to doesnt help either. Maybe if he bowled one- three times a week like regular league bowler wouldnt be so bad but all the games professional bowlers bowl gotta put a strain on his injuries.
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#71439 - 11/25/08 09:16 AM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Originally Posted By: TheDemolitionMan
I know is that his back and hip hurt and usually when he is bowling they flare up


After bowling for about a year, I started to have pain in my left thigh, hip area. Ended up being the beginning of a ruptured disc in my lower back. Came from bad weight distribution on release, causing excessive torsion on the lower spine.

2 MRI's a knee brace, and an x-ray later, the simple solution was to do some relatively simple physical therapy in the pool. After the first week of that, it pulled my spine apart to allow the disc to slip back in, and helped strengthen the muscles. Now I do my therapy 3 days a week when I go to swim, and always go through a routine of stretching before I bowl.

Based on observations of league play and even open bowling, I'd guesstimate that 80% of bowlers do little to no warm up stretching, or exercising to help them bowl. Core muscles, especially, are critical to bowling, and proper maintenance of them can really help the power, balance, and score of your game.
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#71445 - 11/25/08 04:56 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: JStevensMD]
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Originally Posted By: JStevensMD
Originally Posted By: TheDemolitionMan
I know is that his back and hip hurt and usually when he is bowling they flare up


After bowling for about a year, I started to have pain in my left thigh, hip area. Ended up being the beginning of a ruptured disc in my lower back. Came from bad weight distribution on release, causing excessive torsion on the lower spine.

2 MRI's a knee brace, and an x-ray later, the simple solution was to do some relatively simple physical therapy in the pool. After the first week of that, it pulled my spine apart to allow the disc to slip back in, and helped strengthen the muscles. Now I do my therapy 3 days a week when I go to swim, and always go through a routine of stretching before I bowl.

Based on observations of league play and even open bowling, I'd guesstimate that 80% of bowlers do little to no warm up stretching, or exercising to help them bowl. Core muscles, especially, are critical to bowling, and proper maintenance of them can really help the power, balance, and score of your game.


Amen to this. I went down 2 years ago at the foul line with severe pains in my sliding hip. X-rays, and MRI's led the ortho doc to say torn muscles in my bursa sac.

Well, recently I have been feeling a possible relapse. This time, I went to a chiropractor, who X-rayed my lower back, sacrum region, and found a disc out and possible pinching of nerves. Been going to him for 3 weeks now, and it is much improved.
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#71452 - 11/25/08 06:20 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Glad to hear the proactive approach is yielding good results for you, Dennis.
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#71454 - 11/25/08 06:28 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I imagine his style is the biggest factor in his current injuries, and the second-biggest factor is probably rushing to come back from his previous injuries. Bob puts a ton of stress on his body with that shot--more than any thumbless or two-handed bowler I've seen--and asking him to play the full PBA tour is like playing football games on the MLB schedule.

Since he's making TV shows, the pain is still manageable at the beginning of the week. And I remember the major he won, he got out in front very early and wound up bowling a small fraction of the games the others did.
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#71847 - 12/01/08 10:04 PM Re: Robert Smith's pain [Re: untutored]
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Someone should turn him on to the Back 2 Life. It might help with his back pain and possibly realign his hip. I mean since he has so few options left, 200 some dollars might be worth his career.
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