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#69167 - 10/22/08 03:40 PM OK to make Delivery with dead wood in gutter ??
leftykev Offline
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During league bowling last night, I stepped out on the approach and was told to wait, since there was dead wood in the gutter that needed to be cleared, before play could continue.

I was told it was a USBC rule. So, today i went to and searched the online rule book for 'dead wood.' Rules 6a and 6b deal with Pinfall. Unless I missed another rule, it does not say dead wood needs to be cleared before play can continue. But, it does say that pinfall will not count if the ball makes contact with the dead wood or if the dead wood makes contact with other pins, as a result of the delivery.

So, did I miss another rule or am I mis-reading Rule 6?

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#69169 - 10/22/08 04:33 PM Re: OK to make Delivery with dead wood in gutter ?? [Re: leftykev]
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You're reading the rule correctly, kev, but since you want as little a chance of illegal pinfall as possible, you always clear any dead wood in the gutter. wink

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#69172 - 10/22/08 04:42 PM Re: OK to make Delivery with dead wood in gutter ?? [Re: Richie V.]
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I agree and the only reason I ask is that, in this case, the pin was in the right gutter, and since I bowl left handed, there was (almost) no chance the ball would hit the pin or the pin would magically jump out of the gutter to hit other pins smile But, I will remember that if I have 11 in a row, with dead wood waiting to ruin my 300 game LOL

#69174 - 10/22/08 05:08 PM Re: OK to make Delivery with dead wood in gutter ?? [Re: leftykev]
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Inadvertent contact with dead wood is the caution. There is no rule that requires you to remove it before a next shot, as I recall. But, the penalty for accidental pinfall because of contact could hurt you. So, it is best to remove it.
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#69180 - 10/22/08 05:53 PM Re: OK to make Delivery with dead wood in gutter ?? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I think at one point the rule used to be any dead wood needs to be removed. Now if you read 6a4 Pins that lean and touch the kickback or side partition. All such pins are termed dead wood and must be removed before the next delivery. Some might try to tie that in but its a stretch.

I agree with Dennis, its just best to have it cleared out so there is no issue with any inadvertent contact.
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