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#68096 - 10/03/08 03:12 PM What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling?
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I have seen short clips on youtube but I don't understand why they would do this instead of normal bowling and where does this take place? Also what's the deal with duckpin bowling?

O yea what's lawn bowling?
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#68101 - 10/03/08 04:35 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: Pro Bowler 220]
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Candlestick bowling is like extreme ski-ball. You get three times to bowl a frame to knock down all of the extremely narrow "candlestick" shaped pins. Also the sweep doesn't come down after each ball thrown, so you can use pins still on the deck to knock down any remaining pins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlepin_bowling

Yawn bowling is bowling on the lawn. Plain and simple. But it resembles Bacchi ball in a way.

http://www.uslba.org/game.html

Duckpin bowling is pretty much like what putt-putt golf and mini golf are to golf. It's regular bowling that is scaled down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckpin_bowling

As to where to find this different events and alleys, you'd probably have to look in your area via internet for them. Keep in mind that most of my responses are gross over generalizations. You'd be better off doing a little research on them yourself.

And pertaining to your question as to why do people do them? For fun, why else? Well maybe because one of the above mentioned variations of the sport they find more entertaining, challenging or it simply suites them better.
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#68105 - 10/03/08 04:55 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Being someone living in a part of the world where the candlepin form of the game is offered, I feel qualified to answer this. smile

It is thought that the candlepin form of the game originated in Worcester, MA, which also gives name to one of the game's most familiar terms, the "Half Worcester" leave (picking only the 2-8 out of the rack is known as the Half Worcester left, while taking out only the 3-9 leaves the Half Worcester right). It is a very provincial game, found only in Massachusetts, the northern tier New England states (Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont), and the Canadian Maritime provinces (New Brunswick and Nova Scotia).
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#68119 - 10/03/08 11:05 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: Richie V.]
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I must add that these version of bowling is all about being accurate and more challenging then 10 pins bowling.
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#68131 - 10/04/08 11:22 AM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: djRIPz]
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as someone who's done both RIPz, they both have their challenges...in candlepin, it's all about making your spares, strikes are pretty hard to come by..but the lanes don't change or breakdown due to them being waxed rather than oiled..also, the balls are all basically the same weight and design..no different coverstocks, etc...as for me, after 20+ years of candlepin & just about 9 months of 10 pin, I have officially retired my little balls for big ones!

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#68133 - 10/04/08 11:40 AM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: chinch]
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Also with candlestick and duckpin for that matter, you want to throw straight, its just too hard to control the smaller balls if you try to hook them. I mean stand and the approach next to you try to hook the ball and literally hook the lane, from 39 out to 1 and back to 39 is actually possible without touching a pin.
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#68137 - 10/04/08 02:51 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: infernocal]
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Thanks for the info guys.
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#68144 - 10/04/08 04:53 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: Pro Bowler 220]
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I used to watch candlepin bowling on NESN when we had a big K-band satellite dish in NY. It was interesting to watch, especially when you're used to tenpin. It was odd to hear that the "high scores" were "only" in the 150's, if that, but I thought it was cool and, yes, I realized that accuracy was the most important part about candlepin.

When I was in college in Vermont there was a bowling center that had 24 tenpin lanes and 6 candlepin lanes. I got to bowl candlepin about a dozen times before they shut that center down. I've never had the opportunity to bowl duckpin. I'd love to give that a try.
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#68147 - 10/04/08 07:47 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: Brian Longo]
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My grandfather used to be a pretty good Duck Pin bowler averaging 118 which from which I understand is respectable in Duck Pin bowling. He took me bowling awhile back and out of 4 games I broke 100 once...I had a 112 or something like that. My first game was in the 60's and it really made me angry. Lol...I'll be sticking with Ten Pin bowling.
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#68150 - 10/04/08 10:06 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: Reconbbs]
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Last I hear there was never a 300 thrown in duckpin, I think the high is actually a 298. Like candlepin a 150 is considered high scoring.
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#68398 - 10/08/08 09:55 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: djRIPz]
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Originally Posted By: djRIPz
I must add that these version of bowling is all about being accurate and more challenging then 10 pins bowling.


Not so many if any hook-in-a-boxes to improve your game. So accuracy, is a must.
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#68402 - 10/08/08 10:30 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Originally Posted By: TheDemolitionMan
Not so many if any hook-in-a-boxes to improve your game. So accuracy, is a must.


I'm mixed on my opinion of candlepin bowling compared to 10 pin bowling. I've watched many videos of candlepin telecasts on youtube, and even though accuracy is clearly important, to me it just seems that they fire the ball as hard as they can towards the head pin and then hope that they can get a good break and end up with a strike or a makeable spare. I feel that it is indeed much more difficult than 10 pin, but at the same time I feel that there is less skill and precision than there is in 10 pin, it's much more random. The only place I see skill in candlepin is when you are trying to use deadwood to your advantage on spare conversions.

I have cousins in Massachusetts and I've gone candlepin there twice, but only bowled a complete game once, I ended up shooting a 109 in my only complete game. The other time the lanes closed at 8:00 on a Saturday night shocked !

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#68466 - 10/09/08 07:03 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: Mkirchie]
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you're right Mkirchie...there is no loose armswing in candlepin , you got to let it fly..usually aim right up the 17 board since it's not gonna hook. many times I've seen guys hit the 1-3 pocket and due to deflection ( the balls are only about 3 lbs) it ONLY takes out the head pin! I still think there is more substance to 10 pin..like someone here said, candlepin is like mini-golf compared to regular golf.

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#68469 - 10/09/08 10:11 PM Re: What Exactly Is Candlestick Bowling? [Re: chinch]
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Originally Posted By: chinch
many times I've seen guys hit the 1-3 pocket and due to deflection ( the balls are only about 3 lbs) it ONLY takes out the head pin!


There's a good video on youtube of someone picking the 2 pin clean out of a full rack. Here it is.



That's got to hurt.

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