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#67701 - 09/29/08 04:51 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Atochabsh]
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I dont have a tolerance for people like that. I'd have to given him a beaten. Of course thats the beauty of being a south pawed farm boy that bowls right handed. I suppose the right thing in my opinion is for the bowling center to temporarly suspend him for his actions. Thats assame to see that.

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#67702 - 09/29/08 04:51 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Atochabsh]
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I dont have a tolerance for people like that. I'd have to given him a beaten. Of course thats the beauty of being a south pawed farm boy that bowls right handed. I suppose the right thing in my opinion is for the bowling center to temporarly suspend him for his actions. Thats assame to see that.

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#67703 - 09/29/08 04:52 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Atochabsh]
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I dont have a tolerance for people like that. I'd have to given him a beaten. Of course thats the beauty of being a south pawed farm boy that bowls right handed. I suppose the right thing in my opinion is for the bowling center to temporarly suspend him for his actions. Thats assame to see that.

Mark
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#67709 - 09/29/08 05:39 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: MJA]
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There was a time when I would camp out at "his" table and ask him to remove me if he wanted to.

Once met a guy like this at a neighborhood Scotch Doubles event. I didn't know him, but the fellow running the event was really embarrassed. He asked if I could calm him down.

A few minutes later, the organizing fellow came up to me and asked where the loud mouth had gone. I said, the last time I saw him, he was on the ground between the third and fourth car in the parking lot. Enough said.

I have very little tolerance for abusive language, especially when fueled by alcohol.
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#67716 - 09/29/08 06:27 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Nice, Dennis. All ya need sometimes is a nice hook to knock out these idiots. I'm the same way when it comes to alcohol fueled language, anger and idiotic behavior.

It sounds like this "coach" needs to have a TLC match with the guys on WWE if he's that passionate about tables and chairs and that angry when people desicrate them.
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#67717 - 09/29/08 06:32 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Yes, a TLC match is defintely what he needs!

In some places, wouldn't they call the police for behavior like that? I know they might if the guy was kicking ball returns and scoring matchines. I know that's not what he's doing but he's still out of control.
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#67719 - 09/29/08 06:35 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Amateur]
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All I'm sayin is a Swan-Ton Bomb off a 20 foot ladder through two tables onto a concrete floor would shut him up. A stern talking to or a punch in the face might work just as well.
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#67731 - 09/29/08 07:13 PM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Well, as someone who is a coach and who was a hothead, I guess I can't say a whole lot. I have had my tirades, but I have grown up. What bothers me is a) alcohol was involved and b) he was complaining about seating. Holy cow! Is the guy OCD or something?

I'm like everyone else here. I do not put up with alcohol-induced tirades. If you can't handle your booze you either should not be drinking or you need to have your hindside firmly kicked - many, many times. The last two people who went on an alcohol-induced tirade in my presence were my ex brother-in-law, who nearly met his demise at my hands and a loudmouth idiot who came out of the lounge drunk off his tail who was promptly escorted back to the lounge by yours truly and two other adults.

Back to the point at hand, unless that man was acting in the capacity of a coach, he is "untouchable" as far as his coaching credentials are concerned. Yes, he is a despicable, loathsome, sorry excuse for a human being (and coach), but it is up to the league at hand and to the management of the bowling center to deal with him because his actions were outside the scope of the junior bowling league and/or a function where his capacity was "coach", not paying customer.

But, you may have some recourse as per USBC Rules:
Quote:
115a. Dismissal of a League Officer or Player
A league member can file a written charge asking for removal of a league officer or dismissal of a player.
1. A player may be dismissed from the league or an officer removed from league office only for any of the following reasons:
a. Conduct derogatory to the best interest of the league.
b. Any deliberate action which can be proven to be detrimental to the best interest of the team.
c. Violation of any USBC or league rule.

This one's a bit of a stretch, but possible:
Quote:
17b. Improper Conduct
An individual can also be charged with the following violation(s):
1. Engaging in improper tactics or conduct in connection with the game of bowling including, but not limited to, physical and verbal abuse toward other persons.

I'd highlight those passages, show them to Mr. Hothead and see what he has to say for himself.
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#67756 - 09/30/08 02:23 AM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Brian Longo]
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Hmmmm, must have missed the temperment test at the coaching class.

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#67769 - 09/30/08 09:45 AM Re: despicable league behavior - local USBC coach [Re: Atochabsh]
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Brian,

Those passages were unknown to me until this morning; thanks for the back-up. I may print those out and hand a copy to both the gentleman and the league officers.

Hopefully this coming week is free of such drama! On a brighter note, I compete in my first tourney ever, this Sunday smile
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