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#67248 - 09/24/08 09:55 AM PBA changes its stripes
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http://www.pba.com/news/feature.asp?ID=891

Quite a mouthful to say, and the logo looks like it should be the Legos PBA Tour, but at least the tour is still attracting sponsorship. Better than no tour at all wink.
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#67250 - 09/24/08 10:05 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Chubbs]
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I am just glad that they have a company willing to put up the $$$ for the tour. Nice to see that Dennys is still putting up some dough too. I just hope that we see a lot less of the WRW Jr. commercial grin
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#67251 - 09/24/08 10:06 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Chubbs]
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Hmmm... It mentions October 1st and unveiling a logo in the same breath. Maybe there is a better one that will come out then?

In any case, hurray for the continued life of the tour, and it's cool to see Fagan and Kretzer get picked as sponsees as well.
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#67252 - 09/24/08 10:06 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: cgeorg]
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+1 for no more "Oh, he left it OPEN!"
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#67254 - 09/24/08 10:12 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: cgeorg]
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Hopefully this is the last time we have to see it.

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#67255 - 09/24/08 10:25 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: General Pounder]
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Haha now we'll get to see the Lumber Liquidators commercial over and over smile "This is a picture of our first Lumber Liquidators..."

As a graphic designer, I have to say that the new logo is awful in production, but then again...that can be said with a lot of the PBA's aesthetic choices over the years. I still think their best logo to date was ( http://www.mybowler.com/Communities/Common/Images/HtmlTextBoxUserImages/pba%20logo.jpg )

Glad to see the tour still alive and getting sponsors. I supposed we can't be too critical as they can only do so much with so little.
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#67257 - 09/24/08 10:42 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: eastwest]
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Does Walter Ray now get to drop wood flooring in his lap over and over again?
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#67258 - 09/24/08 10:48 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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PBA will never be the same until we get Beer and Cigarette commercials back. Can't see it happening.
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#67259 - 09/24/08 10:56 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
PBA will never be the same until we get Beer and Cigarette commercials back. Can't see it happening.


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#67260 - 09/24/08 10:59 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Now if they could get sponsor to sponsor the PWBA. The women need a "real" tour for themselves. The USBC thing is nice, but what is it 4-5 weeks?
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#67262 - 09/24/08 11:02 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: General Pounder]
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Originally Posted By: General Pounder
Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
PBA will never be the same until we get Beer and Cigarette commercials back. Can't see it happening.


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LOL..HAMMNS..I remember that bear in the ad.
Or ice cold Pabst..
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#67294 - 09/24/08 02:52 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
Does Walter Ray now get to drop wood flooring in his lap over and over again?


Lol, nice
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#67301 - 09/24/08 04:27 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Tim Gerard]
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Originally Posted By: Tim Gerard
Originally Posted By: General Pounder
Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
PBA will never be the same until we get Beer and Cigarette commercials back. Can't see it happening.


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LOL..HAMMNS..I remember that bear in the ad.
Or ice cold Pabst..



And, didn't Budweiser sponsor a St.Louis team, and Terryton Cigarettes a team from Detroit? Local sponsors here in Chicago were Auto Dealers. But, there was a Lucky Strike team as well as a Schlitz team.

And, I believe the prize money was larger in the 70's than it is today. Largely from those sponsors.
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#67302 - 09/24/08 04:47 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I talk to my dad about going to Nationals and be brings up the old Budweiser teams with Dick Weber. I don't know if the money in the 70s was more than it is today. I think it was close though.
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#67303 - 09/24/08 04:48 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: General Pounder]
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There was a Pabst team as well.
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#67306 - 09/24/08 05:29 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: cgeorg]
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Go Pabst, which currently resides in my fridge ;-)
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#67642 - 09/28/08 11:32 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: eastwest]
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Blame it on Denny's and their "family-friendliness".

And while we may not see cigarette sponsors ever come back (due mostly to the pro-health/anti-smoking movement), I do agree that there needs to be a beer sponsor involved with the PBA, like Miller and Miller Lite (and Budweiser and Bud Light before them) were before Denny's and Motel 6 stuck their noses into the PBA.

It seems like now the PBA goes through sponsors almost like the average American household goes through TP, disposable regardless of the eventual outcome (like much-needed Nielsen Ratings points). I remember when True Value Hardware Stores and Firestone Tires were loyal sponsors of the Tour and now it had been lowered to the (ever-sinking) level of obscurity like it has under the current ownership.

Eddie Elias must be rolling over in his grave over what his once-popular Tour that he started 50 years ago has come to. We have been lowered to hearing the term "hambone" (normally called a "4-bagger") from Rob Stone and seeing PDW doing his notorious D-Generation X-inspired WWE-style crotch chop when ever he gets on a roll during a title match.

What next? Not even the great Cindy Margolis' legendary marketing genius can save the PBA now from the eventual doom it will feel soon, guaranteed.
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#67657 - 09/29/08 08:27 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
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[quote=Dennis Michael]PBA will never be the same until we get Beer and Cigarette commercials back. Can't see it happening.


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Or ice cold Pabst..



And, didn't Budweiser sponsor a St.Louis team, and Terryton Cigarettes a team from Detroit? Local sponsors here in Chicago were Auto Dealers. But, there was a Lucky Strike team as well as a Schlitz team.

And, I believe the prize money was larger in the 70's than it is today. Largely from those sponsors. [/quote]


Dennis I believe Strohs Beer that sponsored a team in the Detroit area, starting in the early 1930's thru the 60's. I think Pfiefer Beer had one too.
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#67663 - 09/29/08 09:44 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: General Pounder]
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I talk to my dad about going to Nationals and be brings up the old Budweiser teams with Dick Weber. I don't know if the money in the 70s was more than it is today. I think it was close though.


My reference here is watching the older tournaments on Youtube Videos. Quite often, the announcer mentions the Prize Money for the Tournament. Seems to me that $100,000 prize money and $25,000 first place money is very close to today's winnings.

Now, discount those dollars and take out inflation, and those bowlers back then made a BIG BUCK. And, without the huge sponsorship money.
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#67666 - 09/29/08 11:21 AM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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And after all this time, in fact in 47 years of televised bowling they still give away only a measly (by 2008 standards) $10,000 for a 300 game on television, despite inflation. Now that was fine when Jim Stefanich shot his perfect game back in 1974 in Alameda, Ca (I watched that telecast as did millions of us back in the days when it was on ABC), but seriously, I mean the guys (and gals) on Tour are getting hosed. We bowlers are severely underpaid and most of all, under-respected by the media, don't you think so?

And that is just talking abpout the PBA National Tour, it is a lot less in the Regionals.
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#67694 - 09/29/08 03:50 PM Re: PBA changes its stripes [Re: BIGHMW]
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Sometimes I worry the sport/game I love so much, bowling, will one day be hard to come by and fade into obscurity :-\ The PBA and USBC seem to do little to improve strategically. I mean a "all plastic ball" tourney may do a bit for ratings THAT particular week, it won't help grow the sport in the long term. I've come close to offering the PBA a free re-do of their website, as it's so third-rate in design.
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