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#66385 - 09/11/08 10:10 PM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: Lefty]
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Hey John, you need to do whatever you do to make it so that there is more light on your camera. Its hard to see when its dark.
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#66386 - 09/11/08 11:23 PM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: howiegroove]
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Thanks for pointing that out Lefty. I guess it is possible for me. I will try again Saturday. Sure wish I could afford a good coach real time while practicing. Thanks all for the patient instruction - I'm really not that much of an idiot.

howiegroove - My shutter was on manual at 1000. I'll back it off some to brighten up the picture. I'm I gaining anything with the faster shutter, or should I just put it back to 30?

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#66387 - 09/11/08 11:29 PM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: ijohn83]
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put it back to the original spot. Shutter speed is strictly for pictures and not movies. You use a faster shutter speed for when you are taking pictures with moving objects so an individual picture doesnt blur. In this case, the picture is a continuous movie and shutter speed doesnt play a factor.
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#66406 - 09/12/08 09:08 AM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: howiegroove]
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Shutter speed does still play a factor. You may not need 1/1000 - try 1/500. Even though it is a movie, if you are trying to slow down a release, it happens so fast that you really do need a quick shutter speed if you want to see individual hand positions.

ijohn: Try using that Sport lesson review mode. Somewhere around page 54 here: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/DCRTRV900.pdf
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#66408 - 09/12/08 09:25 AM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: cgeorg]
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Morning cgeorg,

I think that setting has a picture of a golf swing, but does not have shutter speed. Saturday I'll try it.

~ john

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#66409 - 09/12/08 09:26 AM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: cgeorg]
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1/500 should be OK. As a general rule of thumb for sport photography, you want 1/400 or higher to stop action. If you go lower than that, your frames will be more blurred.

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#66415 - 09/12/08 10:05 AM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: Lefty]
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ijohn, that setting should tell the camera to take faster shutter-speed shots, and it should handle getting enough light (as long as there is enough available). It's basically just giving the camera a hint that you want crisper footage.
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#66523 - 09/13/08 06:24 PM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: cgeorg]
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Well after looking at today’s Video (Saturday) I'm not going to waste anyone’s time to post them. I am still not inside the ball.

Next time out I think I am going to throw a few "back up" balls just to look at my hand position. It does look like my trail leg is coming into play more often than not since doing that one step drill.

~John

P.S. It looks like 1/500 shutter speed is going to be good.

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#66530 - 09/13/08 07:59 PM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: ijohn83]
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Honestly, Move your arm exactly like you did for those practice swings. The reason you go around is because you're using your arm muscles to try and pull the ball through. You can throw very good shots without ever using your arm muscles, just like you do in your parctice swing.

When you set up, put the weight of the ball in your off hand (your left). Now make sure that your hand, arm and shoulder are completely relaxed. Now move the ball with your left hand and left it fall into the swing. Now make sure you keep your arm hand and shoulder completely relaxed. It will feel weird, but do not engage these muscles at all. You will more than likely gain ball speed and ball reaction, but you have to keep your arm completely relaxed and not use your arm muscles.


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#66535 - 09/13/08 09:42 PM Re: Playing with video Shutter Speed [Re: ijohn83]
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Next time out I think I am going to throw a few "back up" balls just to look at my hand position. It does look like my trail leg is coming into play more often than not since doing that one step drill.


John, just make sure that you are keeping your hand to the inside of the ball and not in the handshake position to throw that back up ball. The point of the drill is not to actually throw a back up ball, but to keep your hand to the inside of the ball through to the release. Like Lefty said just throw it like you do in your practice swing. You turn it when you are letting the ball go because your brain is telling your wrist and hand to do something to the ball to make it hook, STOP TRYING TO HOOK THE BALL. Trying to hook the ball is killing your game and killing the hook as well.

Next time you shoot a video, I would like to see you hold the ball until your left foot starts on your third step instead of starting the ball with your second step with the right foot. You don't have a big huge push away which is good, so you can start the ball a step later and this should help get your right hip out of the way on the back swing and help you get in a release position before the ball passes your right hip on the release.

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