A) What the F do you care what I prefer? Maybe I don't want to use your site to keep Track of what I do.

B) For someone that doesn't have the device, you sure do have alot of negative opinions about it and what it should be used for. Have you seen that there are about 20 apps for golf?

3) I dont want to wait for pages to load everytime I want to enter information and if I want to pull graphs and get something immediately, thats what I want.

Why are you arguing with me? I'll listen to you about some bowling tips, but don't tell me what I should do or question m my preferences in computing. Thank you.

So, you didn't answer any of the questions? I was trying to find out what you think the iPhone offers for this type of application, that a web app wouldn't. From what I've gathered, your only beef is that the internet is slow?

I am not trying to fight. I am trying to learn.

I thought that with the latest and greatest update, that the iPhone 2.0 had twice the speed as 1.0 for internet?

For those that have a first gen iPhone, the web is extremely slow. A native app is that much more fast and efficient. there is a possibility that pictures can be taken of the pins that you leave in practice and the phone would recognize what is left standing.

Having a native app is more intuitive and has many more options than web apps have to offer. The golf apps available do well on the iPhone too. They could use web apps, but choose not to.

One of the issues that users had with the first gen software is the inability to have native apps on the iPhone. It is an unbelievable mobile computing device. If you don't have one or if you don't use Apple products, than you might not understand from which you might want to keep developing web apps. I went on your site from my iPhone, and it is not mobile friendly at all. If I brought my laptop in, it would work dandy, but I choose not to carry my laptop around.

If you ever decided to make a native app for the iPhone, you might make a bit of money, because I'm sure it would sell well. Its all about options. Do a bit of reading on the net as to why native apps are better than web apps on the iPhone and you might understand a bit better.

It does, but native apps are better and more convenient.

I don't see that happening. a) that would take some pretty sophisticated coding, and b) some pins tend to hide behind others and would not be detected.

On a side note, I can't wait to see what Google brings to the table with their new phone software Android. It should be very web friendly. I am holding off on upgrading my current phones until I see what they have to offer.

Check it out. I know a bit about mobile technology (except coding). In the past, verizon and all the other companies tried to make the user interface of the phones identical. Go to Verizon and try it out. I used to work for them. They did it because they wanted to make it easy on all of the users to switch phones. Apple started a revolution in mobile computing.

Andriod is going to be a much anticipated device as well. Apple and google are always on the cutting edge of technology and work together in certain business ventures. Android is going to be similar to the iPhone... Different. I love Apple, and I'm all for new mobile technologies. But I'm sick of the same old [censored] all the time with windows mobile and RIM.

Howie, why are you so hostile? I had the same questions CG had. Why is trying to understand why a web app doesn't fit your needs such a terrible thing? I've used bowlsk on a mobile device and I find it pretty serviceable. It's a little head scratching to be honest. You're certainly entitled to wait for someone to develop a native app for you, but my guess is that you're going to be waiting for a while. Especially when someone can develop one site that works across any mobile platform instead of developing 5+ apps across 5+ different platforms.

Second, why are you saying CG has negative opinions of iPhones when he never posted a single negative comment about them in this thread?

Also, "Android" isn't a device. There will be no Android phone.

Howie, just got off the phone with Apple Web Developer Service. They report there have been requests similar to yours, and they are looking into developing something. No delivery date as of yet, though.

[censored] I FEEL like you are attacking me. I don't care about your web app. If I would like to use one, I would use bowlspot.com. Either one you use, neither of them are optimized for the iPhone. If you want to see the difference, go to www.seeqpod.com on your computer and then do it on an iPhone. They look completely different.



Not directly, but your mocking me by asking me about 10 times why I cant use your website instead. Its like looking at mail on gmail vs. getting your gmail on Microsoft Outlook. Not much of a difference, but an overall richer experience on the native mail application.



Android is software. I know.