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#63906 - 08/12/08 03:22 PM Team USA
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Does anybody know when USA bowling team is going to be on?


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#63924 - 08/12/08 04:35 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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It isn't an Olympic sport.
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#63927 - 08/12/08 04:43 PM Re: Team USA [Re: General Pounder]
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That sucks. It should be. I mean seeing how bowling is an international sport, I'm just saying it should be. Also why do we have a Team USA if bowling isn't an Olympic Sport?
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#63929 - 08/12/08 04:46 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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World Championships and other tournaments.

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#63931 - 08/12/08 04:49 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Team USA is in Thailand now competing in world champinoships
http://www.2008wmc.com/

Yeah not olympic event
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#63934 - 08/12/08 04:52 PM Re: Team USA [Re: Brandon510]
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That's just stupid. And people wonder whe the sport of bowling can't recognized.
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#63935 - 08/12/08 05:01 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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I have to agree. I think bowling is more of a sport than curling.. I mean come on curling???? sorry to all y'all canuks but curling? Also how about badminton how is badminton an Olympic sport, but bowling is not?

ok I'll step off my soap box now.. smile
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#63937 - 08/12/08 05:07 PM Re: Team USA [Re: Brian Pickell]
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Lay off the curling man smile For some stupid reason, I can't watch enough of it during the winter Olympics.


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#63940 - 08/12/08 05:14 PM Re: Team USA [Re: General Pounder]
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It's because there isn't enough ice shuffle board for one, and you are consantly scratching your head wondering what those two people with the brooms are doing, how much they get paid and if they get a medal as well (and in your head you go, "Could be Fun and I could totally do that").
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#63941 - 08/12/08 05:17 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Hey Pounder, do you think we could get a guy to sweep the lanes to make our balls curve?
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#63942 - 08/12/08 05:19 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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The reason curling is an olympic sport and bowling isn't is because they don't have a groove cut into the ice that tracks errant shots to the target in the middle like we have in bowling.

If we invested money inventing an oil free lane condition and everyone used the same ball then bowling would compete on the same conditions and use the same ball and it would come down to skill instead of who has the best stuff or the easiest shot.

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#63952 - 08/12/08 08:41 PM Re: Team USA [Re: CoachJim]
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#63959 - 08/12/08 11:30 PM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Originally Posted By: TheDemolitionMan
(and in your head you go, "Could be Fun and I could totally do that").


Yep, I'm good with a broom and wash floors too. Just ask my wife.
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#63962 - 08/13/08 01:46 AM Re: Team USA [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I was going to start talking about how the NBA have World Championships and Olympic appearances but Coach Jim does make a good point. Too much variation could be a problem and the reason.
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#63979 - 08/13/08 04:39 AM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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humm never thought of it like that either. good point jim
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#64023 - 08/13/08 05:45 PM Re: Team USA [Re: 180fury]
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I found part of this article on bowl.com and then went and read the rest of it. I figured it would go well in this thread.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregoni....xml&coll=7

The one good point is that bowling isn't a spectator sport other than to other bowlers. I also think its because there wouldn't be any biased judging like in so many of the Olympic "sports."
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#64041 - 08/13/08 10:52 PM Re: Team USA [Re: infernocal]
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Another part of the reason bowling hasn't been in the Olympics as a medal sport is recently because the PBA pros haven't been allowed to compete in the major international competitions such as the World Championships until very recently. Now that they are, the IOC may revisit putting bowling on the program for the 2016 Games.
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#64058 - 08/14/08 04:17 AM Re: Team USA [Re: Richie V.]
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Gymnastics? Sure, it takes a ton of talent, but when you're done with your routine, it goes to the judges. You knock down nine pins, you've knocked down nine pins. No debating that. Is there not an Olympic purity in that?

the website that inferno listed is informative. laugh
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#64137 - 08/15/08 02:19 AM Re: Team USA [Re: infernocal]
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Originally Posted By: infernocal
The one good point is that bowling isn't a spectator sport other than to other bowlers. I also think its because there wouldn't be any biased judging like in so many of the Olympic "sports."


Uuummm...yeah... about that. I haven't seen any swimming, gymnastic, or handball tournaments or competions lately, live or on TV. It seems like most of these have to be specified spectators just like us bowlers. I think that the too many variations that can't be controlled to, test the athelete's ability instead of their ability to buy the right equipment.

And on that note, how in the H3LL did handball become an Olympic sport before bowling? That is some certified BS. Unless of course Handball has been around forever, I only heard about it 4-5 years ago.


Edited by TheDemolitionMan (08/15/08 02:22 AM)
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#64155 - 08/15/08 09:29 AM Re: Team USA [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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5 seconds of research. It's been around for a long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_handball
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#64179 - 08/15/08 05:35 PM Re: Team USA [Re: cgeorg]
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You know many games around the world have bowling as sports in there games. Asia Indoor Games and SEA Games (South East Asia).


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#64186 - 08/15/08 09:33 PM Re: Team USA [Re: Brandon510]
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Hand ball has been around for a long time, I used to play it some when I was younger at a Boys and Girls Club, and as CG's link showed its been around way before that.

As for gymnastics or swimming meets, they are always happening and there are plenty of spectators whether its family members or friends of those competing, other competitors or people that generally like to watch. These are things people will watch, now they aren't on TV that much but that's more because there is no "professional" outlet. You may occasionally see college meets on some obscure ESPN channel.
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#64399 - 08/19/08 12:04 PM Re: Team USA [Re: infernocal]
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#64475 - 08/20/08 02:39 PM Re: Team USA [Re: CoachJim]
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Originally Posted By: CoachJim
The reason curling is an olympic sport and bowling isn't is because they don't have a groove cut into the ice that tracks errant shots to the target in the middle like we have in bowling.

If we invested money inventing an oil free lane condition and everyone used the same ball then bowling would compete on the same conditions and use the same ball and it would come down to skill instead of who has the best stuff or the easiest shot.


Bill Taylor has already invented such a surface. It was demonstrated to the folks at an FIQ meeting in Reno back in '95 or thereabouts. It was a carpet-like surface with absolutely no conditioner. Scoring required accuracy and consistency. As I recall, John Handegard was able to roll a 300 on it. I tried it and my only complaint was the approach...it was not as slick as I was used to seeing. It was looked upon as an interesting idea but the FIQ mavens were reluctant based on cost, opposition to change in general (Luddite mentality) and it not being readily accepted here in the States. I don't know what became of the concept but Taylor is still around.
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