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#60110 - 06/26/08 11:15 AM
Re: PBA Announces the 50 Greatest Players
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There wasn't middle relief guys or closers. Roger Clemens has 118 career complete games. The record is 749 by Ty Cobb.
You have a valid point, but check this comment.
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#60114 - 06/26/08 11:44 AM
Re: PBA Announces the 50 Greatest Players
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My point was that now days, guys are different. Athletes now have much more rigorous training techniques to get them bigger, stronger, faster. Problem is that the players now are more brittle because of all of that. Athletes years ago were not as big and couldn't throw as hard but, they were also much healthier. Roger Clemens pitching 100 years ago. Could he go in and strike out everyone in a game? Probably. Could be pitch every 3 games like they used to? No. Could Ty Cobb pitch today and be successful? Maybe. But, he could pitch 3 times as many innings as anyone else. With having middle relief guys and closers, the game has evolved where players don't need to pitch 600+ innings in a year. Just like bowling has evolved. Year ago, you really had to work to get the ball to hook. Now, you just pitch it on the lane and it hooks (i.e. hook in a box).
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#60128 - 06/26/08 01:46 PM
Re: PBA Announces the 50 Greatest Players
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Today's pro athletes are different than those from 30-40+ years ago. The reason is they make enough to have the whole year to get and stay in shape during the off season for the season, even some of the lesser known reserves. Thirty years ago even some of the top players in a sport had to take on real jobs in the off season in order to live. Going even further back they had to have jobs during the season as well. That alone is a big difference. Add in technology both in the actual game and in training and a dozen other factors, including length of seasons, certain rule changes and so on it makes it impossible to compare.
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#60150 - 06/26/08 04:13 PM
Re: PBA Announces the 50 Greatest Players
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Could Ty Cobb pitch today and be successful? Maybe. Well, I have to say no to this question. I gave you a chance to fix this, but you repeated it. Ty Cobb was an outfielder with the Tigers and Athletics. He didn't pitch. I think you mean Cy Young. Otherwise, we agree.
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#62811 - 07/31/08 10:03 AM
Re: PBA Announces the 50 Greatest Players
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wheres chris barnes at? i know hes not the best but should atleast be top 50
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#62814 - 07/31/08 10:32 AM
Re: PBA Announces the 50 Greatest Players
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oh i didnt even see him. yeah they prolly are lol
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