i just picked up my new Track up rising today. i've been reading online about it for months now , and mike finally got one at the shop. so i got it. i've done a lot of reading about it on here and the net. i talked to mike about it first and he said it was more ball than anything that i have. which was true to start with. but man he wasn't joking. hookzilla! i dont have a high rev rate but it still hits like a mack truck and when mike throws it , its a pin explosion! it hooks no matter what. i mess up a lot on my swing and it still hits hard and hooks out of nowhere. i know with more practice i can get use to it. but i only bowled 2 games on it and it was always 8 or better. thats with my poor ability. its still loads of fun watching someone that a lot better than me throwing this thing.