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#62838 - 07/31/08 03:32 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Scott Gannon]
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I will also sometimes aim for the brooklyn pocket, just because the spares it does leave are easier for me to pick up. I can pick up a five pin a whole lot easier than a 7 or 10 pin (those things are my nemesis) Plus it seams to have a higher percentage of strikes, at least for me it does. So maybe when you see some people picking up all of those Brooklyn strikes they aren't being rewarded for missing their target. Maybe they are actually trying to hit Brooklyn.

IDK just a thought smile
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#62845 - 07/31/08 04:27 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Brian Pickell]
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Brian,

Earlier in the thread some people were saying if you aim for it and get a good shot it is different then when it happens by accident so you have an excellent point. There have been cases on some of the posts where people have targeted the Brooklyn pocket. Still in the overwhelming majority of cases it happens by accident and in my case last week while I knew if I hit a certain area I would get away with it I was still aiming for 5 Board and the 1-3 pocket so I was missing my mark. It is interesting to see all the different opinions and thoughts on this subject.
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#62850 - 07/31/08 04:50 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Scott Gannon]
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Oops sorry, I must have forgotten, it's been a while since I checked in on this thread. Or might have missed it all together. I know sometimes when I click on a link it will skip over like 3 pages of stuff that I haven't read yet.

Now what kind of bothers me more than a Brooklyn strike does is at our league there is a kid that has a ball that isn't drilled. He just walks up to the line palms the ball and throws it out about 12 feet onto the lane, travels out to about the five board and it comes back and either smashes the pocket or smashes it Brooklyn. He can throw it left handed or right handed. Drives me crazy.. He has about a 230 average.

I don't know why that bothers me, but it does.. I still tell him nice shot and give him a high five.. but deep in my mind it just drives me nuts.. Because I'm trying to get all of the mechanics perfect and if I so much as miss my target by 2 boards I end up with an impossible split of some sort.
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#62852 - 07/31/08 04:54 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Brian Pickell]
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Fully 2/3 of my strikes recently have been brooklyn...don't know exactly why, but it seems to give a little more forgiveness to my line.
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#62859 - 07/31/08 06:00 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: JaredB]
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This has been a very interesting topic to say the least.

I think Dennis has the best take on it all. It seems to balance out in the end. Like he said many times you nail the pocket and leave a solid 8, 9, or 10 and then at times you cross over and get a break. It is a shot of lower probability like he said but I just happened to get away with a lot more than I normally would on that night. Being not that long ago I was having a spell where I couldn’t get a break on a strike ball to save my life and I seemed to pick off or barely miss a ton of spares I guess this was my night to make up for that bad spell.
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#62864 - 07/31/08 06:54 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Scott Gannon]
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Scott, thanks for the kudos. But, I realized that all too often, a bowler tries to 'fit' the ball in the pocket when the cross over shot is free and rolling. In most cases, that's why it crossed over. It sure relieves the pressure. Now, you have to get that same roll and feeling on the pocket shots.

And, it doesn't take that much to do. It's in the arm. Don't use it.
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#62880 - 07/31/08 08:51 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Dennis Michael]
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yup i agree with scott on dennis's take on it. i'm not pro joe. dont want to be.i just like bowling. a lot. yup somethings bother me but tuff . i still get to go home to my wife and kid. yup not like that brooklyn i had is going to not let me sleep at night. nore does the high five i gave to someone that got the lucky brake either. sorry. i'm human and dont like belittling people just because they where luckier than me. i think thats [censored]. not human either. be big about what happen and work on your game. i do. why not?
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#62883 - 07/31/08 09:41 PM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: Brian Pickell]
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Originally Posted By: Brian Pickell
Oops sorry, I must have forgotten, it's been a while since I checked in on this thread. Or might have missed it all together. I know sometimes when I click on a link it will skip over like 3 pages of stuff that I haven't read yet.

Now what kind of bothers me more than a Brooklyn strike does is at our league there is a kid that has a ball that isn't drilled. He just walks up to the line palms the ball and throws it out about 12 feet onto the lane, travels out to about the five board and it comes back and either smashes the pocket or smashes it Brooklyn. He can throw it left handed or right handed. Drives me crazy.. He has about a 230 average.

I don't know why that bothers me, but it does.. I still tell him nice shot and give him a high five.. but deep in my mind it just drives me nuts.. Because I'm trying to get all of the mechanics perfect and if I so much as miss my target by 2 boards I end up with an impossible split of some sort.


Lucky for the kid. It just for fun and not registered with USBC. If it was. Three holes would be need and only can play with one arm for a full game with no alternating.
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#62896 - 08/01/08 03:08 AM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: djRIPz]
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The rules state only a maximum number of holes. There is no minimum number of holes required. The only rule concerns the difference in weight between the areas of the ball. It is true, however, that only one arm, left or right, can be used in sanctioned competition.
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#62902 - 08/01/08 07:45 AM Re: Brooklyn Strikes [Re: okorimbo]
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Yeah the league we were in was a cosmic league.. They took a vote at the beginning of the league as to whether or not we wanted to be sanctioned and the nay's won that one.

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It is true, however, that only one arm, left or right, can be used in sanctioned competition.


If that is the case how does that Australian PBA member get away with bowling with two hands. Or is there some kind of exception if you bowl with both hands on the ball?


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