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#62283 - 07/25/08 09:51 AM
Re: Most Hook
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Legend
Registered: 10/12/07
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Also, re: General Pounder, visionary can't be used in *any* PBA competition, even regionals. To Dennis, I know Wes Malott was Track 2 years ago, and he made plenty of shows using that purple ball. Product categories: http://www.pba.com/resources/ProductCategories.aspFull registration means it can be used anywhere, including logos and patches, etc. and I can't see the difference between that and "All Tour Competition" Grassroots stuff can be used in TQRs, Senior Tour, and Regionals, but not the PBA Tour or TV. Grassroots manufacturers are 900Global, Lane #1, and LaneMaster/ Legends. Full list is here: http://www.pba.com/resources/equipmentSponsors.asp?Type=1
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#62284 - 07/25/08 09:52 AM
Re: Most Hook
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Legend
Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 3221
A/S/L: M/Barrington, Ill
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Mo is taking care of WRW, that's for sure. But, the fact was he couldn't use their balls on TV until the juice was paid. Mo didn't pay it, and someone did. Thought WRW was involved somehow with the "sponsor" fee satisfaction.
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#62285 - 07/25/08 09:53 AM
Re: Most Hook
[Re: cgeorg]
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Legend
Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 1266
A/S/L: 33/M/Tinley Park, IL
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There was a while where WRW was using Wilson bowling balls. Yes, the bowling balls that you can buy at Target for $40. He was still making shows. I guess when you are that good, it doesn't matter what ball you use.
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#62287 - 07/25/08 10:01 AM
Re: Most Hook
[Re: General Pounder]
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Legend
Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 1266
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CG: Your right about Visionary. I know that they can be used in league competition and regualar tourneys, but not PBA events. I misread their press release.
Visionary - Not PBA Registered
.......Unfortunately, due to the recent format change and the price increase in registration fees, Visionary Bowling Products LLC has decided not to participate in the PBA program for the 2007-2008 season. This decision was not taken lightly and was neither anticipated nor desired.
.......Our corporate goal has always been to serve the bowling public with high quality, high performing bowling balls at an affordable price. In order to maintain these goals, and continue serving bowlers and pro shops with the same commitment and price structure that they have become accustomed to, we felt the only option was to temporarily step away from the PBA. We understand that this decision is not going to be popular with bowlers that participate in the Regional, Senior or National PBA Tour, and we sincerely apologize for any inconveniences that it may cause.
.......Visionary would also like to reiterate that our equipment has been, and will continue to be approved for ABC, WIBC, YABA, and USBC sanctioned events, including all leagues and tournaments that are not governed by the PBA. Bowlers who do not participate in the Regional, Senior or National PBA Tour, will in no way be effected by this decision.
.......At Visionary we truly appreciate all of our loyal customers, and want to thank you for your continued support. If there is anything that we can do to assist you in the future, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Jason Wonders
Visionary Bowling Products
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#62296 - 07/25/08 11:15 AM
Re: Most Hook
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Registered: 02/13/01
Posts: 4066
A/S/L: 42/F/California
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I had heard that it cost a million dollars to get approved by the PBA. If so, that's a cost that small ball companies probably cannot absorb.
Erin
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#62307 - 07/25/08 12:32 PM
Re: Most Hook
[Re: Atochabsh]
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Action Bowler
Registered: 05/08/08
Posts: 252
A/S/L: 35/M/CA
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I had heard that it cost a million dollars to get approved by the PBA. If so, that's a cost that small ball companies probably cannot absorb.
Erin That is rediculous. You should be able to use any ball that is within the spec rules.
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#62308 - 07/25/08 12:38 PM
Re: Most Hook
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Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 1330
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It's free advertising for the company... If a bowler makes it the whole way through a step ladder, that's an hour long commercial for whatever company he uses. In addition, it takes time and money for the PBA to certify that new releases adhere to guidelines (although they may just rely on the USBC to keep everything in spec, I'm not sure). I'm not saying it's not excessive, but I also can understand it not being free. It would take a more in-depth market analysis to make that call. A better model may be to charge manufacturers a flat fee for each game that one of their balls is used. Same for shoes, patches, etc.
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#62386 - 07/27/08 01:15 AM
Re: Most Hook
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Action Bowler
Registered: 06/01/08
Posts: 298
A/S/L: 30/m/hatton,al
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Track use to be in it a lot. the 1996 Track open is one event. it show jr. shooting with Brunswick and butch soper using Track. but that was in the 90's so i'm sure things have changed since then.
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#62394 - 07/27/08 08:36 AM
Re: Most Hook
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Registered: 07/16/08
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is the nvd a new ball to the nv series?
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