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#61818 - 07/18/08 02:49 PM Most Hook
Justinmill14 Offline
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Hey everyone, im new to the forum, but not to bowling. I am looking into getting a new ball, which ball do u guys think has the most hook between the Ebonite and Hammer brands?
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#61821 - 07/18/08 02:53 PM Re: Most Hook [Re: Justinmill14]
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I've never thrown any Ebonite except for my dad's Turbo X a few times and that works pretty well. But I like Hammer, you can get a lot of reaction out of the Black Widow line and their Raw Hammer line looks pretty good as well.
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#61830 - 07/18/08 03:26 PM Re: Most Hook [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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I forgot to ask. What type of reaction are you looking for from the ball? What type do you like (Arching, skid/flip)? And I need some more details about your bowling style. Revs, style, lines that you like to play, stuff like that.
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#61834 - 07/18/08 03:42 PM Re: Most Hook [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
Justinmill14 Offline
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Registered: 07/16/08
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usually 2nd aarow, i dont get that many revs, more on the backend hook but a lot of it.
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#61841 - 07/18/08 07:13 PM Re: Most Hook [Re: Justinmill14]
Reconbbs Offline
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another question would be what type of lane conditions are you bowling on?
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#61849 - 07/18/08 11:23 PM Re: Most Hook [Re: Reconbbs]
jsigone Offline
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my buddy has a complete NV, doesn't have to over revs but enough and the ball has good backend arc. His hand is close span to mine so I can use that ball as well and it's nice. Almost makes me want to get one.
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#61864 - 07/19/08 02:52 AM Re: Most Hook [Re: jsigone]
180fury Offline
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With the introduction of the Hammer Hazard, Hammer is Proud to offer a unique twist to the HART core concept that provides more aggressive backend attack for right-handed bowlers. Developed by our team of design engineers, the HART Offset core changes the orientation of the pin, HART, and center of gravity locations on the ball in order to produce length and aggressive backend reaction for right-handed bowlers without the need for exotic layouts and weight holes. Unfortunately, the Hazard will not provide the same length with aggressive backend reaction for left-handed bowlers or bowlers with full-roller ball tracks.

The HART Offset core concept allows for more length and more aggressive backend reaction by placing the pin at 4 1/2 - 5 1/2" from the PAP (Positive Axis Point) and the HART well into the ball Track.

interesting ball none the less.
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#61873 - 07/19/08 10:48 AM Re: Most Hook [Re: Justinmill14]
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Welcome to the site. It is my opinion that someone in your shoes would get more out of lessons than a big hooking ball, just my 2 cents.

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#61875 - 07/19/08 12:19 PM Re: Most Hook [Re: CoachJim]
TheDemolitionMan Offline
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Caoch might be right. Lessons might be a good idea. Do you open up your shoulder for side rotation and exstend your index finger and tuck your little finger? Those two things come to mind at least in regards to hook.

Basically, you could take just about any high performance ball and drill it to hook. So all you have to do is pick a ball.
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Fall Averages
Romancing the Stone avg.: 176

Mixed Classics avg.: 180

High game: 279
High series:655

Arsenal
16 lb. Roto-Grip Cell
16 lb. Hammer Black Widow
15 lb. Columbia Scout Reactive Gold&Blue

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#61903 - 07/20/08 12:03 AM Re: Most Hook [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
180fury Offline
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Registered: 06/01/08
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tuck your pinky ?? what does that do ? i dont do it. but never saw anybody that has. thats a new one to me. sorry had to ask. laugh
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in my bag :
15# track--up rising
15# brunswick--super zone powerkoil international release
15# track--kinetic energy
16# morich--awesome finish
15# ebonite--clash
14# lanehawk-- lucky strike

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