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#61606 - 07/15/08 10:43 PM I need a new arsenal
TheDemolitionMan Offline
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I have a Cell, a BW solid and a Scout Reactive. The last two I think are nearing the end of their life span but I'll probably use them as long as I can.

So I was thinking about getting some new balls and here's what I've choosen:

Roto-Grip Cell- Solid Reacitve, Heavy-Med
Lane #1 G-Force Nebula- Pearl Particle, Heavy-Med
Roto-Grip Venus- Pearl Particle, Med-Dry
Roto-Grip Illusion- Pearl, Med.
Roto-Grip Odessey- Solid, Med.
Hammer Rayzr- Solid, Dry

And I''ll probably get a white or blue dot, but some sort of plastic ball to throw at spares. And I'll probably start with the bottom ones first seeing how there is very little oil here in San Diego except at a couple of select houses.

What do you think? I'm open to other suggestions, and I would like to narrow that down to 4-5 balls if that is possible. I don't really know the other brands all that well, but I'd like to try to stay within the same two or three.
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Mixed Classics avg.: 179

High game: 279
High series:655

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16 lb. Hammer Black Widow
15 lb. Columbia Scout Reactive Gold&Blue

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#61615 - 07/16/08 02:59 AM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
180fury Offline
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Registered: 06/01/08
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would love to see the grand illusion and the rayzr. not bad at all.
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15# brunswick--super zone powerkoil international release
15# track--kinetic energy
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15# ebonite--clash
14# lanehawk-- lucky strike

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#61624 - 07/16/08 11:28 AM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: 180fury]
TheDemolitionMan Offline
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I forgot to add that I was going to give Brunswick another try and consider the Swarm and the Sidewinder.

The Rayzr is a definate and probably the first one that I'll get.
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I may be a noob, but I don't play like one.

Fall Averages
Romancing the Stone avg.: 171

Mixed Classics avg.: 179

High game: 279
High series:655

Arsenal
16 lb. Roto-Grip Cell
16 lb. Hammer Black Widow
15 lb. Columbia Scout Reactive Gold&Blue

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#61675 - 07/16/08 11:10 PM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
180fury Offline
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Brunswick suppose to make good stuff. havent had any complaints about my twisted fury yet. just made in mexico. not knocking it, just wonder sometimes if thats good. the copperhead is suppose to be good too. i want to see the smash zone my self.
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your only as twisted as your ball's fury.
http://kineticfury.bowlspace.com

in my bag :
15# track--up rising
15# brunswick--super zone powerkoil international release
15# track--kinetic energy
16# morich--awesome finish
15# ebonite--clash
14# lanehawk-- lucky strike

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#61725 - 07/17/08 02:43 PM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: 180fury]
TheDemolitionMan Offline
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Yeah I heard about that. It's alright to wonder. The cheaper labor usually tends to lead to decreased quality in the product, so it's only natural.
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I may be a noob, but I don't play like one.

Fall Averages
Romancing the Stone avg.: 171

Mixed Classics avg.: 179

High game: 279
High series:655

Arsenal
16 lb. Roto-Grip Cell
16 lb. Hammer Black Widow
15 lb. Columbia Scout Reactive Gold&Blue

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#61729 - 07/17/08 03:01 PM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
CoachJim Offline
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Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 2123
A/S/L: Reston, Virginia USA
I don't see a ball that replaces your bw solid, I'm not sure about the grand illusion I have seen mallot throw it i think unless that was the regular illusion, what about the Track uprising, or the lane #1 ths. You need a good benchmark type ball like the bw solid to base your arsenal around.

I recommend getting two of them, one pin over fingers, one pin under, one of them will usually carry.


Edited by CoachJim (07/17/08 03:01 PM)

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#61731 - 07/17/08 03:23 PM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
Chubbs Online   rotfl
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Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 220
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Originally Posted By: CoachJim
I don't see a ball that replaces your bw solid,


I've seen a video comparison of the BW Solid and the 900 Global Break, and their paths were almost identical. I definitely like mine, but don't see heavy enough conditions to use it very often. It's a trained killer, though. thumbsup
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#61762 - 07/18/08 12:22 AM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: Chubbs]
TheDemolitionMan Offline
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The benchmark out of the list above would probably be the Odyssey. Chubbs you were right about the 900 Global Break. It is pretty close to the BW solid. If worse came to worse then I could just get another BW solid.

CoachJim, wouldn't a better benchmark ball from Track be the Temper or the Tantrum instead of the Up-rising? I like both of those seem better as a benchmark, and the Up-rising would be a better replacement for my Cell (but that's not going to happen). I kind of like the Temper over the Odyssey.
_________________________
I may be a noob, but I don't play like one.

Fall Averages
Romancing the Stone avg.: 171

Mixed Classics avg.: 179

High game: 279
High series:655

Arsenal
16 lb. Roto-Grip Cell
16 lb. Hammer Black Widow
15 lb. Columbia Scout Reactive Gold&Blue

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#61787 - 07/18/08 10:46 AM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
CoachJim Offline
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Registered: 09/19/06
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Quote:
CoachJim, wouldn't a better benchmark ball from Track be the Temper or the Tantrum instead of the Up-rising? I like both of those seem better as a benchmark, and the Up-rising would be a better replacement for my Cell (but that's not going to happen). I kind of like the Temper over the Odyssey.


The guys in Bowlers Journal said the Uprising is the best all around and most versatile ball in Track's line up, they also said this is the ball they should have came out with first since it fits in the middle of their line up and would be the center piece in any arsenal. One of the local shop guys is sponsored by Track and said the Uprising is the best ball he has thrown from the Ebonite owned Track company.

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#61810 - 07/18/08 01:39 PM Re: I need a new arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
TheDemolitionMan Offline
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Oh ok. I wasn't aware of that. Then I guess the Uprising would be aliright as my benchmark ball. I guess it just looks like it is advertised as a much stronger ball. Thanks Coach.
_________________________
I may be a noob, but I don't play like one.

Fall Averages
Romancing the Stone avg.: 171

Mixed Classics avg.: 179

High game: 279
High series:655

Arsenal
16 lb. Roto-Grip Cell
16 lb. Hammer Black Widow
15 lb. Columbia Scout Reactive Gold&Blue

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