I have a Cell, a BW solid and a Scout Reactive. The last two I think are nearing the end of their life span but I'll probably use them as long as I can.

So I was thinking about getting some new balls and here's what I've choosen:

Roto-Grip Cell- Solid Reacitve, Heavy-Med
Lane #1 G-Force Nebula- Pearl Particle, Heavy-Med
Roto-Grip Venus- Pearl Particle, Med-Dry
Roto-Grip Illusion- Pearl, Med.
Roto-Grip Odessey- Solid, Med.
Hammer Rayzr- Solid, Dry

And I''ll probably get a white or blue dot, but some sort of plastic ball to throw at spares. And I'll probably start with the bottom ones first seeing how there is very little oil here in San Diego except at a couple of select houses.

What do you think? I'm open to other suggestions, and I would like to narrow that down to 4-5 balls if that is possible. I don't really know the other brands all that well, but I'd like to try to stay within the same two or three.

would love to see the grand illusion and the rayzr. not bad at all.

I forgot to add that I was going to give Brunswick another try and consider the Swarm and the Sidewinder.

The Rayzr is a definate and probably the first one that I'll get.

Brunswick suppose to make good stuff. havent had any complaints about my twisted fury yet. just made in mexico. not knocking it, just wonder sometimes if thats good. the copperhead is suppose to be good too. i want to see the smash zone my self.

Yeah I heard about that. It's alright to wonder. The cheaper labor usually tends to lead to decreased quality in the product, so it's only natural.

I don't see a ball that replaces your bw solid, I'm not sure about the grand illusion I have seen mallot throw it i think unless that was the regular illusion, what about the Track uprising, or the lane #1 ths. You need a good benchmark type ball like the bw solid to base your arsenal around.

I recommend getting two of them, one pin over fingers, one pin under, one of them will usually carry.

I've seen a video comparison of the BW Solid and the 900 Global Break, and their paths were almost identical. I definitely like mine, but don't see heavy enough conditions to use it very often. It's a trained killer, though.

The benchmark out of the list above would probably be the Odyssey. Chubbs you were right about the 900 Global Break. It is pretty close to the BW solid. If worse came to worse then I could just get another BW solid.

CoachJim, wouldn't a better benchmark ball from Track be the Temper or the Tantrum instead of the Up-rising? I like both of those seem better as a benchmark, and the Up-rising would be a better replacement for my Cell (but that's not going to happen). I kind of like the Temper over the Odyssey.

The guys in Bowlers Journal said the Uprising is the best all around and most versatile ball in Track's line up, they also said this is the ball they should have came out with first since it fits in the middle of their line up and would be the center piece in any arsenal. One of the local shop guys is sponsored by Track and said the Uprising is the best ball he has thrown from the Ebonite owned Track company.

Oh ok. I wasn't aware of that. Then I guess the Uprising would be aliright as my benchmark ball. I guess it just looks like it is advertised as a much stronger ball. Thanks Coach.

The new twisted fury solid could be a good test if you want to try Brunswick as a bench mark ball.

Actually, the Uprising looks like it would be a good replacment for my BW solid. The Temper and the Tantrum also look good but so does the Odyssey and there's always the option of getting another BW Solid.

The thing is that I'm trying to put together a good and versatile arsenal because some of my equipment is getting worn and I might/probably will need to get it replaced. Plus I want to drop to 15 pounds because I can't quite cup my wrist with a 16 pound ball without it hurting. additionally, I feel like I throw my 15 pund ball much better than my 16 pound balls.

The Grand Illusion likes it might be a good choice as well.

the uprising does seem like a good one. it seems like you can do a lot with it. also if it goes too long you can sand it down some from what i've read. a versatile ball is a good thing just an idea of how i do it--->
MoRich awsome finish 1st game ( oily )
twisted fury 2nd ( med-oily )
kinetic energy 3rd ( med-light )
i start with MoRich, but if the oil starts to move i'll go to the fury. but i try not to switch much. but sometimes it can't be help. i try to stay with ball as long as i can but it does help going to some that dont over react or go to long.
your heading in the right direction and i like how your looking at it. so keep it up and you'll find what your looking for.

So I realized last night that I cup my wrist and I didn't even know it. I wasn't starting with it cupped but I cup it in the backswing. I don't know if that is good or bad thing. But my main reason for changing weights seems to be gone. I still want to try 15 pounds though.

Just got my new BTM, with the review of this ball. It is the strongest ball they make - Probably not good for a benchmark ball. Original would be a good benchmark, with the solid for heavier conditions and an avalanche or one of the mid-range balls for lighter conditions.

Of the 3 balls rated, 2 got an 8 on sport conditions (the solid, and the ... copperhead I think? The stronger one). The swarm got lower marks, but looks like a decent medium house shot ball. I am against going with one company, but Brunswick seems to have balls that can handle any condition in a very predictable manner - They have the Solid Fury, the BVP heavy oil ball (copperhead?) the original Twisted Fury, and the Avalanche solid that are all in the 7s and 8s for sport conditions - I haven't seen another manufacturer come close to that in BTM's reviews.

Agreed about the Solid not really being a benchmark ball. I got the original Twisted thinking it would be a good lead-off hitter, and OOB (400 rough buff) it proved to be much too strong. Took it to 2000 Abralon polished, and now it does what I expected. Twisted is great as a lead-off ball in my PBAX league because it doesn't freak out when it hits the transition from wet to dry on fresh patterns. As carrydown starts to show up, I can move to some of my more angular stuff. I don't get quite the carry from my Twisted that I do from my Breaks and Street Rod, but it's also much easier to keep the pocket earlier in the night.

Predictability over eye-popping performance is what the latest round of stuff from the Big B seems to be all about.