i agree with Dennis and lefty about your hand position its almost in the same exact place. your wrist should be a more towards the center of the ball if your staying behind the ball.

Those 2 photos are from the same type of shot. 60-70 degree axis rotation.

Try these 2 for comparison.




There is some difference between the 2, I wasn't trying to come straight up the back of the ball, just reduce the axis rotation some.

DD, maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to come straight up behind the ball. Now you say you are changing axis of rotation. If that's it, I see no problem. You did that.

No problem, I will save the up the back stuff for the Viper and Cheetah. I can vary my release adequately enough now without going to the extreme like that.

I am more concerned now with what looks like a poor follow through. I don't like the fact that I am bringing my arm more in towards the center of my body when I should be more out towards my target. I am not hitting up on the ball now, but it looks like I may still be trying to pull through the release and this is causing me to spray it.

Do you see the same thing? My follow through should be more to the right side of my body, and not towards the top of my head. It looks like I am doing it mainly on the slightly less axis rotation releases only. I need to figure out what is causing it.

Anyways, I feel like I am making improvements each time I go practice. You have to admit I am not quite grip and ripping it like before. Plant and pulling, strapping, whatever you want to call it.

Yes, you are not reaching, but coming straight up with our arm. Correcting that should help eliminate the pulling. I pull when I early rotate in the backswing. There were shots where I thought you might have been doing that.

The first one for sure I early rotated, and never got anything on the ball so it came light. Usually when I early rotate I get an early reaction and it goes nose. I chicken winged the first shot though so it was just destined to be a 10 pin.

I just went through and looked at several videos to see your hand position as the ball starts to descend from the back swing and what happens to it after that. On most of the shots you turn it early. I also don't think I saw 2 that were the same.

Even the images you posted don't have you behind the ball. Your pinky still might be on the back side of the ball, but the palm of your hand has rotated during the downswing from it's original position, which was directly behind the ball.

In the first picture, your hand and arm are in line. In the second you can see that your arm has turned in and the inside of your elbow is facing across your body, your hand is no longer behind the ball and the ball still hasn't gotten to your ankle.

Both fingers are behind the ball. I will be home in a couple hours and I am going to photograph this so there is no confusion.

I just don't understand how it is that in that Slowinski article their hand position is identical to mine yet its incorrect for me and not them.

I can clearly see the back of the ball, and your hand is not on it.

What article are you referring to?

Just saw the article you posted.. there are 2 differences:

First, they are more behind the ball.

Second, look where the ball is when the picture was taken. The ball is at their slide foot. You're more around the ball much earlier.

EDIT: You've got to wait on it longer.