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#60896 - 07/05/08 08:40 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: cgeorg]
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13-15 board versus the 8-10 board, and about 4-5 boards further left than I usually start on the approach(20 board).

Two things I forget to mention were that I do leave the 8-10 on occasion, but I know or can at least come up with a few reasons as to why I leave it. And second I get a much better reaction out of the Cell when I move further inside and put more side rotation on it.


Edited by TheDemolitionMan (07/05/08 08:42 PM)
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#60899 - 07/05/08 09:09 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Red Zone has been an excellent and versatile ball for me. They can be bought pretty cheap too.
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#60902 - 07/05/08 09:49 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: desertdog71]
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Then we have 2 different views of what it means to play inside. 13-15 at the arrows still very close to the Track area.
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#60903 - 07/05/08 10:00 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: cgeorg]
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Inside/outside is a relative term.

Inside to me is 18+ and outside is 1-7 board. The rest is all comfort zone for me. It is different for everybody.
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#60907 - 07/05/08 10:45 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Demo there is only one reason you leave the 8-10 and that is the ball has lost too much energy on it's way to the pocket, you see a slow 10 or 8 pin, that is telling you that you need to move farther into the oil because the ball is losing too much energy.

Historically the term, "inside" is starting the ball inside of 15, the Track is between 15 and 8 and outside is right of 8, the twig is 4 to the gutter.

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#60908 - 07/05/08 10:50 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: CoachJim]
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Usually, when I leave the 8-10 playing I guess further inside then I usually do i.e. the Track, I usually throw it soft and the angle that the ball its the pocket isn't right.
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#60912 - 07/05/08 11:47 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: cgeorg]
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i use my Track kinetic energy for that kind of oil. Lane Condition:Medium-Heavy
Coverstock:Reactive Resin, Finish:Polished Color:Navy / Orange
Performance:Mid Performance

its not that expensive either. most people dont like Track that much but this is my first one and i shot a 208 with it friday. my first game over 200. but i've only had a hook ball since march, so you can see why i love it. i have used a straight ball before then (for a long time). Track is owned by Ebonite. and it does take on a lot of oil like most because of its cover. plus its polished like your clash. also i own a clash and this thing is its big brother to me. check one at the Pro Shop if they have one next time and compare it to your clash. and talk to them about it. its an amazingly similar ball. its a med performance ball also and it hits like a tank too. its forgiving a little too. which helps with me laugh

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#60917 - 07/06/08 12:17 AM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: 180fury]
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Most people I see with a Cell are playing inside with a break at about 8, and plenty of side rotation. Seems to be pretty common.
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#60940 - 07/06/08 04:18 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Again, Dennis, what do you mean by "playing inside"? I doubt they are playing 5th arrow. The ball would not hit.
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#60944 - 07/06/08 05:11 PM Re: Which ball for med-heavy oil? [Re: cgeorg]
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Well, most that I see are playing center arrow, +- a couple of boards. My Coach plays dead over the center, out to about 8. And, since he owns the local Pro Shop too, I am sure he has had some input into how others roll.

He had me standing and rolling inside at 17 out to 10 when I bought my Shift. He won't sell me a Cell, since he says it doesn't match my game.
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