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Yeah, it's not straight bowling all the time, I have 5-8 minute breaks there and there, drink water (always doing that, I got water bottle always with me) and if I haven't ate before I left to the lanes I'm going to eat about after 2½/3 hours of practise.
#60873 - 07/05/0801:15 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
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Lefty
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Originally Posted By: Sam Virtuz
Why do you think so?
Because your arm is straight up in the air. That's way to high, and it doesn't get that high naturally. You're pulling the ball (i.e. forcing it) that high.
#60874 - 07/05/0801:24 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
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Lefty
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Here's a picture to show you how high your arm gets. You're forcing it that high. On top of that, your timing is way out of wack because of this. This is your 3rd step and The ball is already at the top of your backswing.
The only part where I "force" the swing is when I push it out with my right arm, and when the swing starts getting nearer to the bottom, I try to keep it near my body.
But the key to getting it up there is with opening up your shoulders, as you see while its up there my balance arm is more towards the ground instead of being on the side, and the body is turned a bit more out instead of being towards the lane. And when getting nearer the foul line I start bringing the balance arm back to the side, and maybe up a little too.
Also, if you look very closely, you can see that my hand is a bit more on the right side of the ball which means that I turn my wrist out a bit too while being on the backswing, it helps on "unlocking" the muscles too. And while doing this, I believe it helps when I start on learning how to hook the ball, since my wrist will be more "inside" of the ball.
But yeah, I will not try hooking untill I got all the basic mechanics down and can consistently repeat my shot.
#60876 - 07/05/0801:33 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
[Re: Sam Virtuz]
Lefty
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If you're not forcing the swing then gravity must play by a different rule in Finland because it's physically impossible for your backswing to go that high without you forcing it.
#60878 - 07/05/0801:54 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
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The pushaway isn't going to make it go that high. You are either pulling it down or pulling it up the backswing. That's the only way you're going to end up with your arm pointing straight up in the air. You may not think you're doing it, but that's what's happening.
#60898 - 07/05/0809:04 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
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Originally Posted By: Sam Virtuz
Yes, only part where I'm forcing it is at the pushaway. Happy now?
Sam,
I told you before it has nothing to do with my happiness, or anybody else on here for that matter. We are all trying to point you in the right direction and you just don't want to hear it.
You should be picking up on the common theme here about your backswing. I have told you a dozen times myself in chat and on here. Many of the top coaches here have said the same thing. You need to quit rationalizing all the reasons its that high, and admit to yourself that maybe it is incorrect.
I am as stubborn as anybody myself, but sometimes you just have to admit you are wrong and try to make a change.
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#60900 - 07/05/0809:14 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
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Sam I was just curious as to where you have the ball positioned at the start of your approach. Have you tried a higher ball position? It was just one of those random thoughts that were bouncing around in the back of my head. It might help.
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#60901 - 07/05/0809:32 PMRe: Few videos from todays practise
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desertdog71
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Originally Posted By: TheDemolitionMan
Sam I was just curious as to where you have the ball positioned at the start of your approach. Have you tried a higher ball position? It was just one of those random thoughts that were bouncing around in the back of my head. It might help.
Do you mean lower start position? Higher start position would equal a higher backswing.
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