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#60628 - 07/02/08 12:34 PM Few videos from todays practise
Sam Virtuz Offline
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So yeah, shot couple videos...

I changed the steps a bit ; 2 first steps slower,try to step second step more infront of the other foot instead of crossing over, earlier pushaway, and now I try to step the third step as longer and more to the right. Before I have kinda "rotated" inside on the 3rd step, and stepped it almost way too much to the left, so yeah I believe this fixed a little atleast.
Hmm... And I'm strugling with throwing on angles, like converting the corner pins, 7 and 10. But takes just the time to practise on them too.





Here's 2 shots taken from the side;



Still uploading one more, another normal vid, and then I shot one where I was just filming the feet.




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#60632 - 07/02/08 01:35 PM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: Sam Virtuz]
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Maximum edit time passed......

Anyways heres the 4th video;


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#60775 - 07/04/08 03:54 AM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: Sam Virtuz]
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There seems to be a little inconsistantcy in your footwork and timing. Sometimes both are aligned right and it looks smooth and you throw/roll a good ball. But other times it looks like around the point where your backswing is getting to its highest point, its like you freeze frame... and then speed back up again. Another thing that might help is not bending over so much but that would mean you would have to lower your backswing. I don't think that's a problem it just might help.
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#60778 - 07/04/08 07:38 AM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Demo if you look at the video when he does the pause thing, he is taking two steps when the ball is at the top of the back swing, if you back it up you will see that he is starting the ball on his first step and he takes 5 steps and should start the ball on or after the second step starts. Sam has long arms so he might want to start the ball at the same time as the second step.

I talked to him in chat and he has seen a personal coach that is why I haven't responded to this one until now.

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#60785 - 07/04/08 09:31 AM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: CoachJim]
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Update on the approach...

My coach told me to start it only after when the first step hits the ground, till then I just move, nothing else moves, I don't bend forward or anything, just keep back straight and take my weight a bit forward, then start the swing on a smoother circle, now you could see that I kinda push it almost forward and bit up, and then let the ball drop. I should now try to have the movement on the pushaway smaller, not so far to the forward, instead trying to have abit more up, and on a more smoother circle, not that angular as it is now. And then the main thing is then again on trying to have my back straight, and not to start falling over on either way... And the steps shall be corrected a bit later, currently I have better sized 2 first steps, pretty small ones, but I can't seem to get enough lenght on the 3rd step..

But yeah, while on the coaching session I had few veery good approaches, atleast the coach said them as being perfect, and my backswing was the straightest he has ever seen. I didn't go today practising because I'm being a bit sore from yesterday (7 hours of practise!) Gonna work on my approach on saturday though, and try to pay attention to the things that the coach had pointed out.

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#60788 - 07/04/08 11:34 AM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: ]
Sam Virtuz Offline
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The only part where I "force" the swing is when I push it out with my right arm, and when the swing starts getting nearer to the bottom, I try to keep it near my body.

But the key to getting it up there is with opening up your shoulders, as you see while its up there my balance arm is more towards the ground instead of being on the side, and the body is turned a bit more out instead of being towards the lane. And when getting nearer the foul line I start bringing the balance arm back to the side, and maybe up a little too.

Also, if you look very closely, you can see that my hand is a bit more on the right side of the ball which means that I turn my wrist out a bit too while being on the backswing, it helps on "unlocking" the muscles too. And while doing this, I believe it helps when I start on learning how to hook the ball, since my wrist will be more "inside" of the ball.

But yeah, I will not try hooking untill I got all the basic mechanics down and can consistently repeat my shot.

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#60792 - 07/04/08 11:56 AM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: Sam Virtuz]
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I like your footwork much better now, I still don't like the mammoth backswing but we have been through that a dozen times already. Keep working at it.
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#60797 - 07/04/08 12:46 PM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: desertdog71]
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You might want to consider not bringing your backswing up quite so high.

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#60799 - 07/04/08 12:55 PM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: Lefty]
Sam Virtuz Offline
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Why do you think so?

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#60800 - 07/04/08 01:15 PM Re: Few videos from todays practise [Re: Sam Virtuz]
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Personally, I don't think the high backswing is a problem. I do see what Coach Jim is saying though. Overall it does look a whole lot better.

Can you tell me exactly how you throw at the corner spares and any other spares you are having trouble with? You are throwing a straight ball at them, correct?
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