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#59123 - 06/12/08 06:11 AM
Re: Help with Accuracy
[Re: Amateur]
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Bracket Donor
Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 142
A/S/L: 29/M/Slovenia
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Don't think some grip pressure is necessary! If you think it is, you will probably grip too much. If the ball is drilled correctly, it WILL stay on your hand even with your arm and hand completely limp!
Here's my experience with regard to the free swing: I decided my main objective was to have a truly free swing, so I tried keeping my arm completely limp. My accuracy went up, revs went down, scores went UP! Now when I know what a free swing feels like, I'm trying to have a stronger wrist position again while trying to keep my swing as free as possible.
So, basically, a completely free swing and a cupped wrist are probably not achievable, but you can get close with practice. You need to teach your body to be able to keep your underarm muscles active and all your other arm and shoulder muscles relaxed.
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#59131 - 06/12/08 08:26 AM
Re: Help with Accuracy
[Re: Amateur]
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Legend
Registered: 01/30/05
Posts: 1804
A/S/L: 36 / M / Rochester, NY
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The one thing I don't understand about keeping your whole arm relaxed is once you're in the swing, how do you expect to stay under the ball? You need to use your wrist/forearm for that. If you don't, I bet you either sacrifice revs or don't get the right roll you want on the ball anyways. You don't have to use your wrist and forearm for that. The reason you think you do is because you slow down your arm swing and gravity wants to pull the ball to the floor and you are using your muscles to slow it down. If you don't prevent the ball from falling, your hand and the ball will fall at the same speed and it doesn't take any effort at all. At the bottom of the swing, your hand will be behind the ball and as it goes up the back swing, your hand is actually on top of the ball.
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#59132 - 06/12/08 08:27 AM
Re: Help with Accuracy
[Re: Luksa]
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Legend
Registered: 01/30/05
Posts: 1804
A/S/L: 36 / M / Rochester, NY
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Here's my experience with regard to the free swing: I decided my main objective was to have a truly free swing, so I tried keeping my arm completely limp. My accuracy went up, revs went down, scores went UP! Now when I know what a free swing feels like, I'm trying to have a stronger wrist position again while trying to keep my swing as free as possible.
And that's exactly how you should be doing it.
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#59138 - 06/12/08 12:08 PM
Re: Help with Accuracy
[Re: Lefty]
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Registered: 05/05/08
Posts: 881
A/S/L: 20/Male/California, US
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I concur with Lefty and Luska
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High game: 279 High series:655
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#59159 - 06/12/08 03:37 PM
Re: Help with Accuracy
[Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Registered: 02/19/07
Posts: 1921
A/S/L: 27/m/maryland
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I concur with TheDemolitionMan's concurrence with Lefty and Luska.
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#59171 - 06/12/08 05:12 PM
Re: Help with Accuracy
[Re: infernocal]
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Team USA Hopeful
Registered: 05/03/08
Posts: 442
A/S/L: 19/M/Tacoma, WA
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Okay, I agree with you guys about the free armswing. I know it's a little harder to cup the wrist and still stay free, but like Luksa said it will get better with practice. How much accuracy would you be sacrificing if you wanted more revs though? It's the grip pressure deal I really hate right now. It just seems out of this world to me.
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