thinking about getting a new ball. i have a twisted fury and a MoRich awesome finsh. both are great great balls and i have an Ebonite clash.

i'm looking for a tighter line ball. when it hits the dry part of the pattern i want a medium hook. when the lanes start drying up my twisted starts up early. i once had an Ebonite complete nv and it was drilled for long and strong but it wasn't strong. it would go long but not hook back in like my twisted or the clash. looking to play almost straight up and just alittle to right. i get the drill pats when i caon my balls if needed. house oil pattern- plan block they dont change anything at this house. just block pattern. go fig.

thanks for the help!

You have a good mix of balls and consequently their reaction.

So therefore at 170 average, there's some things that probably need to be worked on that do not deal with ball choice.

Since I was at 170 and can still remember that frustration I would suggest a coach and these goals.
1. how to get lined up quickly once league starts. This includes how to warm up and enter league play efficiently.
2. how to concquer the 10 pin leave (RHder) and get a strike instead
3. how to follow lane transition and stay in the pocket all night long i.e. lane transition
4. how to get secure on multi pin spares when you leave them (like the bucket).
5. get very secure on your 10 pin spare and 6,10 pin leave.

A new ball will not solve these issues. When you get to the point where you leave only 1 split a night and maybe one other open a night (maybe two) then you can look at another ball. Otherwise there are things to work on that have nothing to do with ball choice.

Erin

I was also going to say that the balls you have right now are fine and you should be able to improve ur average by working on technique and adjustments.

When I first started bowling, and I got to about 160-170 average, I started to look for that one ball to get me over the hump. After several balls, and hundreds of dollars later I came to realize it was not the balls I was using, but the way I was using them.

Erins right about seeing a coach. I started to see my coach more frequently, and my average has climbed because of it. I also found that the balls that I had were all I needed. It could be just a suttle little thing in your technique that needs adjusting, and a good coach can point that out. I think you will be surprised at the progress you will make after just a few visits with a coach.

yes had a coach but saw him twice then he just quit coming to his shop. his shops not been open for weeks now. looking for another to help with that adjustment but fir now just talking with people around the house. but your right though. the balls i got r great very great , but just wondering if i'm missing somthing in ball placement. coaches r hard to find in alabama. you just get uncle fred and friends to help then if you do find one they want 6o a lessen ( some times hard to do that at times but is cheaper than a ball)

thanks

More of a reference to actobash, but one split a night and only a couple opens..? Um, you're talking nearly professional level there... If you're only leaving one split a night, you've got horse shoes rammed up your [censored]. I left 3 splits in one game tonight, and I still averaged 214 for 3 games. Granted, I would say a good average bowler shouldn't be missing single pins. I'm not happy when I miss a single pin in a night. But I just think that's a little extreme to be sayin' that without looking at getting another ball... especially when two of his bowling balls are rather high end bowling balls.

Go to Bowl.com you can do search for a coach and might be able to find one in your area. I agree a coach is worth the cost if you want to improve.

No I'm thinking most 200+ bowlers on a typical house shot. Far from professional level. These goals are far from the professional level's quest when they go out onto the lanes. This expectation should be NORMAL for all those averaging over 200.

At this level you are talking not just spares (because they are a given-- NO MISSED SPARES), and maybe one mistake a set that gives you a split. Knowing that the "mistake" has area that doesn't totally penalize you unless you really miss big. But this is not even close to what the PBA Touring players do on a week to week basis. Because they see vastly more changing conditions and those conditions are far from the house shot that league bowlers are given.

This is part of the problem with bowling and how its perceived even by its random players. Most bowlers that bowl league have no idea of what kind of conditions can be put out there to stop their scoring pace. Not just stop it, but eliminate it, with just one pass of the oiling machine.

Its not the bowlers' fault. They get channelled into conditions that the house puts out from week to week. They get comfortable. And they forget some of the aspects of adjustments and change that they might have normally used in years past. A good center manager knows how to keep the conditions steady and the bowlers happy. But that doesn't mean those same bowlers can excel in the center 10 miles down the road.

Erin

If you are in a rural area, then yes, coaches are going to be hard to come by. But if you are willing to travel 60 miles (give or take) then you should be able to find an able coach.

Even in the highly populated area of CA, I travelled over an hour each way to see my coach.

Erin

humm manager where i bowl really doesnt care if the regular bowlers are happy. most jumped ship when he came abord about a month and a half ago. he's sent in by corporate to get more business. which means--> get the teens and bowl extreme all the time <--. patterns dont change here period. block standard is it. not much you can do there. just adjust to find the line when it all breaks down. spares are fun. work on spares once a week. just spares. try to pick off the 10 by its self or the 7 or just throw spare ball just too get something going. finding another house is way out of question too. so i op for a new ball just to see if help but coaches are cheaper but like i said $60 a pop and hours drive with gas as high as it is just dont mend well. most want 5 or 6 lessens and i work swing shift too. so i'm left most of the time to just figure it out on my own. and just talk to people is it. be nice to find someone to help but just out luck here on this one.