I got some video for myself today, for diagnostic purposes, but remembering this board and how lousy I am at explaining things, I also made a few videos of my shot to put here.

Here's a close-up of the full roller spin. I picked the Liberator because it's got a big logo across my PAP, and then I (thoughtlessly?) fixed a small strip of tape on a radius from the logo:


Here's a rear view of my 'technique'. I usually get a bit lower than this, but not much:


I picked up a 4pin with the Doom for a slightly different angle:


Here's the side view:


Believe it or not, I used to finish even higher than this. Then, I realized I needed to lower my body, almost immediately blew out my hip flexor, and a year and a half later, I'm finally strong enough to start making progress again.

Anyway, I look forward to whatever comments I receive.

untutored, what's the purpose of the dip?

I also tore the muscles in my hip, sliding one. And, it took a year and a quarter for it to mend. I still feel it with a strain.

the squatting at the beginning is just wasted energy. You are turning the ball early in the down swing, half way down your hand is on the right side of the ball, try keeping your hand on the left side until the swing reaches your heel then turn the ball. If you do this and it falls off your hand, try the two handed delivery and see if that keeps your hand behind the ball longer.

If you do experiment with 2 hands, Joe Slowinski's site has some drills to get your timing and technique on the right Track.

www.bowlingknowledge.info

These are the first 2 attempts I've seen at coaching this style, but from my read through it seems like he has isolated a couple of the key differences.

I'm trying to shock the muscles into action, same as with the rocking motion with my arm. I used to have moments where one muscle or another would start to protest or go dead a bit during my approach, which is why I developed this routine.


Year and a quarter...yeah, that sounds about right. That would put me at this January, which is when I started bowling well again.

I have one of those 'bed buddy' hot packs you stick in the microwave, and I use it to warm that muscle up before I leave (and on the car trip there). And I take an ibuprofan or a naproxin now. Also, I don't sit between shots any more. But aside from that, I'm pretty much back to normal now.

I'm not turning the ball at all, actually. The reason I'm behind the ball at the end of the backswing is that I've turned my shoulder.

We already discussed the fix in my other thread, where we talked about going from a full roller to a 3/4 roller. I'm working out the approach mechanics with the 'end-over-end' shot I'm trying to develop this summer.

I've seen that before. Slowinski is a smart guy.

As it turns out, the two-handed shot probably resembles the typical three-finger bowler's shot more than it does my shot. I'd love to learn it, but I'm probably too old and settled to make the commitment it would require.

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YA RLY!


The ball is at that angle when I start, and it stays there throughout the swing. So, it's "turned", but I don't do any "turning".

I guess you could say that I'm turning the ball really early (before the pushoff).

Now you're selling yourself short. Your hand is in a great power position with the fingers inside the ball at the top of your backswing.



You want to keep it there until the ball passes your ankle. Without your thumb in, in might have a tendency to roll off the right side of your hand. This is why Jim suggested the 2 hand approach. The second hand goes on the ball on the right side (looking from behind) to keep it from falling off to the right. When you get to the ankle, the left hand comes away and the right hand makes a powerful release just like any other power release, thumb or no.

Since you're familiar with Slowinski, it's the same concept as his article on keeping the fingers on the inside of the ball.