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#57150 - 05/21/08 06:42 PM
Re: How much grip?
[Re: CoachJim]
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Junior Master
Registered: 05/04/08
Posts: 30
A/S/L: 17/ M / NJ
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So if I have calluses at the tips of my fingertips (middle/ring), what does that mean?
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#57152 - 05/21/08 07:28 PM
Re: How much grip?
[Re: Confused]
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Team USA Hopeful
Registered: 05/03/08
Posts: 457
A/S/L: 19/M/Tacoma, WA
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The thumb should be tight enough to where you don't have to squeeze it to hang onto it. The top edge of the hole should be a little bit sharp so it digs in a little bit at the base of your thumb which may cause a blister and a callus which is normal.
Hey Jim, a couple of questions. On the subject of not squeezing(yet again), one should be able to hang onto the ball even while keeping their thumb straight, and maybe even pressed to the back of the thumb hole. Is that correct? My other question is about the top edge of the hole. Are you saying that with less bevel the thumb hole will "grab" on the your thumb on its own? If this is the case, I don't quite understand the reason behind this. Could you possibly explain it more in depth? Thanks.
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#57170 - 05/22/08 03:01 AM
Re: How much grip?
[Re: Confused]
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Action Bowler
Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 268
A/S/L: 51/M/France, right handed
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So if I have calluses at the tips of my fingertips (middle/ring), what does that mean? Check out this site. You'll probably find an answer. Finger tip calluses
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#57180 - 05/22/08 07:44 AM
Re: How much grip?
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USBC Silver Coach
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 2135
A/S/L: Reston, Virginia USA
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Hey Jim, a couple of questions. On the subject of not squeezing(yet again), one should be able to hang onto the ball even while keeping their thumb straight, and maybe even pressed to the back of the thumb hole. Is that correct? Yes this is the case, you want to be able to swing the ball with your thumb straight or the back of your thumb pressed to the back of the hole, but when you do this it pushes the base of your thumb forward and you can then relax the thumb and the top edge of the thumb hole will lock itself onto the base of your thumb. Pressing the thumb deeper into the hole while doing this helps lock the ball onto the thumb tighter, but if the edge of the hole has been beveled off (this is common) then the locking effect will not happen. My other question is about the top edge of the hole. Are you saying that with less bevel the thumb hole will "grab" on the your thumb on its own? If this is the case, I don't quite understand the reason behind this. Could you possibly explain it more in depth? If the thumb is locked into the ball then you don't have to bend your thumb knuckle to hang onto the ball in fact you don't have to hang onto the ball at all, as it will now hang onto you and gravity will pull it off your hand at the bottom of the swing very quickly and you will get more revs. If you have to bend the thumb knuckle to hang onto the ball then you have to unbend it at the right point in the swing to let it go and that is too much for anyone to try to get right every time. This is why I recommend Bowling This Month magazine to everyone of my clients. Rolf Guager has written about his thumb locking technique several times and I have learned it to do it by reading his articles. It goes like this: Start by keeping your thumb nail in contact with the back of the hole, then push the thumb all the way into the hole, and let it come back a little so that the base of the thumb locks in on the edge of the hole.
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#57207 - 05/22/08 12:24 PM
Re: How much grip?
[Re: NewYorkDave]
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Bracket Donor
Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 175
A/S/L: Pinoy-Guamie on the Bay
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Just wondering: if conventional grip leads to bad technique, then why is it most often recommended for beginners? I'm amazed at Chris Warren bowling on tour with the conventional grip. Are there any other pros that bowl this way on tour, too?
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#57260 - 05/22/08 07:41 PM
Re: How much grip?
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Legend
Registered: 02/19/07
Posts: 1940
A/S/L: 27/m/maryland
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It should be beveled to a point that its comfortable but still locks the thumb in. Start out with the least amount bevel, just enough to kill a hard edge and then use it some and if it needs a little more bevel take it down a little more. You can add bevel, but you can't take it away short of re-doing the thumbhole.
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