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#59201 - 06/13/08 08:56 AM
Re: Summer Leagues 2008
[Re: RLD]
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Legend
Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 1368
A/S/L: m/ Michigan
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I had the Chameleon pattern again last night, and really bowled badly. My trouble is not so much with the pattern, its my timing, and arm swing. Suddenly I am back to muscling the ball, falling off the shot... really just all out of whack. My ball speed is out of control @ 18-19 mph. I can't seem to put two good shots in a row together. One game I can't strike for the life of me, and the next game I'm chopping off pins leaving 4-5 opens....very frustrating. I know what I'm doing wrong,...I just am having trouble correcting it.
I have another session with my coach this weekend, and hopefully I can get it through my thick skull and correct this. This is the same thing that plagued me for the entire first half of last season. I really don't want to experience that again.
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#59202 - 06/13/08 09:38 AM
Re: Summer Leagues 2008
[Re: Tim Gerard]
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Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 3187
A/S/L: M/Barrington, Ill
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Eraser, all I can say is, BE CAREFUL. Many of us want the challenge of the tougher lane conditions, but we can do some damage to our game in doing so. It is good that you are seeing your Coach before the next league night. Stop your problems now.
PBAX can cause the bowler to do things that they are not used to doing, like muscling, cranking, hitting up and picking up speed. If you don't stop doing these right away, they stay with you and are very hard to get rid of.
All of a sudden, your normal motion doesn't work. The bowler tries to make them work by doing things they normally wouldn't. So, be careful.
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#59204 - 06/13/08 09:56 AM
Re: Summer Leagues 2008
[Re: Dennis Michael]
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Legend
Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 1368
A/S/L: m/ Michigan
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Dennis, I have thought about that, by bowling in a PABX league actually being detrimental in the long run. But I really don't think the pattern is the problem,..but I could be wrong. I am just all out of sync. The problem I think is in my second and third step being too fast, and I arrive at the foul line way before the ball does..so I end up cranking it to catch up. I think I need to take a bigger first step to correct it. But saying it and doing it...well its tougher than it looks.
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#59206 - 06/13/08 10:25 AM
Re: Summer Leagues 2008
[Re: Tim Gerard]
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Registered: 10/17/07
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A/S/L: 25/M/CO
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Eraser do you take a 4 or 5 step approach? If you take a 4 step, maybe try dropping the ball into the swing just before your first step.
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#59207 - 06/13/08 10:27 AM
Re: Summer Leagues 2008
[Re: Tim Gerard]
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Legend
Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 3187
A/S/L: M/Barrington, Ill
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Eraser, all of a sudden, your ball doesn't react as normal. You can't hold the line. You have to be more accurate. Your ball dives on the end. One pattern, it slides for 40 feet, the next, it hooks in 35.
I have seen many bowlers develop bad habits because of these conditions. It is much, much different than bowling in a Sport league. A sport league shot will pretty much remain constant throughout the year. But, a PBA pattern is so different from a THS that is may cause a problem. Then, as you try to fix that, the league pattern changes, and another problem arises. It's not like the pros, and it is like the pros. They bowl on this shot, but not the way a PBA league is set up. The shot doesn't change for a tournament, so a bowler can more easily make an adjustment.
Obviously, the more you bowl on the same pattern, the more successful you can be. Trying it in week 1, then waiting a week til week 2, then changing the pattern in week 3 doesn't help the above average bowler, but in many cases, hurts them.
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#59214 - 06/13/08 11:46 AM
Re: Summer Leagues 2008
[Re: Dennis Michael]
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Legend
Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 1368
A/S/L: m/ Michigan
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You could very well be right Dennis. I would be more sure of it if I had a nice smooth approach and release, and felt comfortable. But true, the PBA patterns themselves may be the culprit as to why my game has nose dived of late.
I finished the season bowling well, flirting with 700 several times, and hitting it twice. Then we had a couple of weeks off, and we started the PBA league, and ..presto..I stink. So the theory of bowling on the PBA patterns makes sense. Funny, ...I thought bowling in this league would help my game...
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