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#53806 - 04/02/08 10:13 PM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: Brian Longo]
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As CoachJim likes to say, think of leading the shot with your ring finger.


I wish I could take credit for that, it is from John Jowdy's book Bowling Execution.

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#53808 - 04/02/08 10:18 PM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: CoachJim]
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Whether it's Jowdy's words or not, you are the one who mentions it the most. Regardless, at least you gave credit to the proper person. I only was repeating what I've read more than a few times on here.
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#53811 - 04/02/08 10:43 PM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: CoachJim]
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Originally Posted By: CoachJim
If you are truly gifted and are able to release your thumb at exactly the right point every time, and there are such people,


I'm not one of those ... thats one of my biggest problems/obstacles as I said. I only wish it all came naturally. Ive started about 2 months ago or so and bowl 3-5x a week 4-7 games an outing - I still am not any where close to gifted, LOL.

Maybe I need to get me one of those positioning supports to try and teach/train my hand to get into that cupped position. I'm confident this particular pro is a good one, so not sure why his opinion on cupping would so greatly differ from jowdys.

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#53813 - 04/02/08 11:20 PM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: sixbagger]
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Originally Posted By: sixbagger
I'm confident this particular pro is a good one, so not sure why his opinion on cupping would so greatly differ from jowdys.

It's the degree of "cup". Some people tend to think that if you cup your wrist, it's "super cocked" where your palm is practically facing you (if the ball wasn't in your hand). But, again, if you go with a slight cup, which is what I do, that's what you need. A "flat" wrist does nothing but promote a weak release and frustration. A slightly cupped wrist aids in proper feel and balance of the ball in your hand throughout your swing.
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#53815 - 04/03/08 12:11 AM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: Brian Longo]
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Possibly I had exaggerated the cupping techinque when I asked him about it and that was what he was saying no to and not a slight cupping. I will work on a slight cupping my next outing and inquire about a support to retrain what Ive been doing the last 2 months.

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#53828 - 04/03/08 07:18 AM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: sixbagger]
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Sixbagger, is your wrist strong enough to do the exercise with the ball the way Ron describes in his tip? If not your wrist is not strong enough and you need to work on that first so you don't hurt yourself.

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#53834 - 04/03/08 08:22 AM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: CoachJim]
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Maybe cradling is a better word than "cupping" in this case.
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#53835 - 04/03/08 08:28 AM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: CoachJim]
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Originally Posted By: CoachJim
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As CoachJim likes to say, think of leading the shot with your ring finger.


I wish I could take credit for that, it is from John Jowdy's book Bowling Execution.


I can attest to this working as well. If you free up your arm swing and just think about your ring ringer going towards your mark without trying to turn it, good things happen.

Bad things happen when you try and turn the ball or make the ball hook.

And about cupping the ball, I agree with Brian. There's a slight amount of cupping and then there's what I see a lot of kids try and do which is pretty severe cupping.

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#53861 - 04/03/08 12:04 PM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: CoachJim]
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Originally Posted By: CoachJim
Sixbagger, is your wrist strong enough to do the exercise with the ball the way Ron describes in his tip? If not your wrist is not strong enough and you need to work on that first so you don't hurt yourself.


Yes, I have tried that exercise - I am able to bend the wrist and hold the ball as described. I agree that the word cup/cupping comes across misleading and thats most likely where the difference in instruction lies.

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#53938 - 04/04/08 06:00 AM Re: Any tips to stay behind/under the ball? [Re: sixbagger]
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Its weird. I can't do it in the picture in Ron's tip, but when I'm bowling I can feel my wrist not bend back. Maybe its because i'm in motion?
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