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#56181 - 05/08/08 02:17 AM Rico Drill
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I am planning on drilling a ball with the rico drill pattern. which ball do you think would be the best ball for a bowler that has medium to high rev rate depending on what conditions i am on. i average 220 on and house shot and 209 in travel league. I I go to lots of the southwest regionals. i just got a gravity shift so i thought of drilling it with the drill.

if you have any thoughts or anything just let me know to watch my video of me bowling go to [video:myspace]http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=3696676[/video]

This me bowling at the regional in moore, ok in my home house. it was on senior pattern #2. Sorry for how far the cam is could not get a close shot.

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#56187 - 05/08/08 07:31 AM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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Welcome to the site.

Liz Johnson had 3 gravity shifts, one with the pin over the fingers, one with the pin just under the fingers and one with the Rico drilling. She had different surfaces on each one, pin over was shiny pin under slightly dull and Rico very dull. It seemed like she would have a shot with pretty much any lane condition with this set up.

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#56228 - 05/08/08 02:54 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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well if i had it shiny do you think it still would be a good drill to have for my type of bowling

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#56231 - 05/08/08 03:02 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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It depends on the line you are trying to play and the oil pattern, you never know what will work. Look at the PBA players that play the shark pattern on the outside as opposed to up the middle, you never know what you will need especially in PBA competition.

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#56237 - 05/08/08 05:17 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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i figured that but like i said i can play anywhere on the lane i bowl in the southwest regional so i can play anyline just need to know if the rico drill pattern for a medium to high rev bowler could use this pattern and be successful on the regional shots

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#56259 - 05/08/08 08:22 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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Rico drillings are usually best played up the boards, I don't know what the pattern is that you will be bowling on, you are more familiar with it than I am, I would say that if you play from the 3rd arrow out it should be alright. Rico patterns are mostly used by rev challenged bowlers playing straight up the boards or higher rev bowlers trying to gain control of the break point, you know the pattern and how you play the lane. If you cross too many boards I would go with a higher pin placement.

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#56487 - 05/12/08 09:46 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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If your intrested in RICO drilling i came accross this article on google:

Written by Joe Slowinski

The RICO layout is certainly creating a buzz. It has been used on Tour successfully this season including by Parker Bohn in his win in Spartanburg on the Viper pattern as well as in qualifying by Diandra Asbaty during her march to winning the Great Lakes Classic on the Cheetah pattern. Much discussion is appearing on the message boards, with various amounts of accuracy. So, with the goal of providing accurate information, I went directly to Ric Hamlin, the individual credited for the layout, to get details from him directly. Ric is the Consumer Products Specialist, for the Northwest region, Brunswick Bowling and Billiards. Here is an overview about the RICO layout including when to use the layout, how-to map the bowling ball, how-to alter the layout for a higher Track player. I also provide a summary of how the layout was first used and why. This is intended to present a more accurate overview of the RICO for those who want to have a better insight into this useful layout.

When to Use the RICO Layout?
The RICO is best used on more challenging patterns, longer and flatter. Ric Hamlin makes it clear that this layout has bailed-out many pro staffers on patterns such as the Masters and US Open. It is best for those who are speed dominant or have a lower rev rate. Specifically, the layout will get the ball to react sooner on the lane. These type of players tend to get too much length on these type of patterns. In addition, this is a good layout for players with a higher rev rate. For this type of player, the layout helps the ball to react sooner and smooth-out over/under ball reactions. Ric recommends that all tournament players have a ball with this layout in their bowling bag. It is very good to help bowlers get through transitions into the pattern breakdown. I tend to use the layout, as I mentioned above, on tougher patterns,”


1.
Pin in the palm. Generally, this will be in the center of the grip. So, for most bowlers, the PIN to PAP will fit in the range of 3 ½” to 5 1/2”

2.
When choosing a bowling ball, make an effort to obtain a ball with a pin distance (PIN to CG) that is close to half the distance of the ring finger span (Ric's recommendation and what he tries to do when using this layout). Top weight should be around 2.5 to 3 oz.

3.
The CG is placed at an angle 45 degrees from the PAP, through the grip center (for a RH bowler this in the 4:30 position)

4.
Place a weight hole, 6 ¾” from the grip center. The weight hole will approximately be 1 ¼” X 2 ½”

5.
In other words, the angle created from the PAP to grip center through CG to weight hole will be 45 degrees.


NOTE: The weight hole is extremely important in this layout. In a bowling ball with a symmetrical core, this will create more asymmetry since the weight hole is drilled into the core 90 degrees from the PIN, or 6 ¾”. So, it will increase the dynamics of the reaction. In a bowling ball with an asymmetrical core, the PSA/MB is placed at a 45 degrees from the grip center. The more asymmetrical the core is, the less a weight hole will have an impact on the motion. But, when adding a weight hole, the amount of asymmetry will be increased. Thus, this will increase the overall reaction of the ball.

Watch the ball reaction as Parker Bohn III throws it in South Carolina, on TV. Parker is throwing this on the Viper pattern (37 feet). Click here to launch the Youtube video In addition, Brad Angelo used this layout in the Finals of the Windy City Classic. This was bowled on the 44 foot Shark pattern. Click here to see this Youtube video. Notice the smooth ball motion from the oil to the dry.

Altering Pin Placement for Higher Track Player:
For higher Track players, there is a greater chance of the ball hitting the middle finger. Although Parker Bohn (PAP of 5 & 3/4 over and 1/2 to 3/4 up) has no such issue when using this layout. To adjust, move the Pin up on the center line the amount, the distance, of the vertical PAP coordinate. This should raise the bowtie enough to miss the finger. This should alter the layout enough to avoid flaring over the middle finger. This is particularly important for those with a high lateral PAP (5 ½” and above ½” on the vertical). Moreover, to achieve a similar result, you can move the PIN closer to the PAP (more similar to leverage) or away from the PAP (to create more length).

How the RICO Layout Was Created (in Ric Hamlin’s own words)
“Although I [Ric Hamlin] have been given credit for it's so called design, how it all got started was a few years ago, Brunswick sponsored the Mini Eliminator in Las Vegas. I was part of the tournament support team. We would lay out all the balls, that were being used during the week of competition. At that time, the lane surface at the Orleans had become worn, thus making the lanes play a bit more on the difficult side, as well as a higher amount of conditioner on the lane to compensate for the worn surface. On top of that, the lane was Brunswick Pro Anvil, which is a lower friction surface and tends to create hang anyways. Knowing that this layout generally worked on tighter and/or longer patterns as well as for those that were either speed dominate, rev challenged or just needed reaction help, I used this layout quite a bit with very positive results. One of Brunswick's staffers, Nick Smith, was there and I used this layout for him. He was a higher rev player, but very speed dominate and he was impressed with the reaction, thus nicknaming the layout 'Rico' after me.”
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Successfully Used During the 2007-2008 PBA Season
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Parker Bohn, Winner Spartanburg Classic, Viper Pattern

Diandra Asbaty, Great Lakes Classic, Used in Qualifying


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#56522 - 05/13/08 12:51 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Brandon510]
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so if any one knows about the rico drill what would you say would be the best symmetrical ball for this drill. i am thinking of a fury pearl even though i already have one or a twisted fury or the ultra zone something from Storm...

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#56526 - 05/13/08 02:06 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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After reading Brandon's post, what lane condition do you want the ball for, you can put the drill pattern on any ball, you need to decide for yourself what lane condition you want the ball for and match it up accordingly.

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#56528 - 05/13/08 02:45 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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I am going to put it on a Hammer Anger. I think this should work for heavy oil. What about moving the pin closer to the PAP but still half way between the grip? Would you still put the cg 45 deg from the center grip or 45 degree from the pin.

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#56532 - 05/13/08 03:24 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: J_w73]
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not really a big fan of the anger at all its already to much for my style of bowling. looking for something for like all the patterns since i bowl in the regional tour.

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#56533 - 05/13/08 03:28 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: J_w73]
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The rest of the specs are the same except the pin is closer to the pap.

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#56535 - 05/13/08 03:38 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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ok if i was going to bowl on the viper and i wanted to drill a ball with the rico pattern which would be the best ball i like Brunswick and Storm but i was told i should have a ball with a symmetrical core.

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#56537 - 05/13/08 03:43 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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It doesn't matter between symmetrical or asymmetrical, the type of ball and surface are what you need to match, you drill the weight hole through the mass bias any way so it doesn't matter.

I have seen much success with Brunswick and Storm equipment drilled with the rico. For the Viper I would pick the Fury Pearl or the twisted, if it was me.

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#56539 - 05/13/08 03:50 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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cool thanks i was looking at the red zone for it.

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#56540 - 05/13/08 03:50 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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do you think the avalanche would be a good ball for the rico for any of the patterns

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#56541 - 05/13/08 03:55 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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It depends on your revrate and the amount of oil they use, it might work on the viper for people with lower speed to revrate or rev dominant players on lighter oil patterns, but might not be enough ball for heavier longer oil patterns or speed dominant players.

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#56542 - 05/13/08 03:57 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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well i just dont know what i should get because i just want one ball with it and be able to play all patterns with it.

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#56545 - 05/13/08 04:07 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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Then try the Gravity the Twisted or the momentum then, and you had better be able to make adjustments. Those balls are the most versitile out there right now, but that doesn't mean the same ball will work on all patterns, that is why people carry so many balls. If you only needed one ball then this game would be very easy.

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#56547 - 05/13/08 04:09 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: Want to be great]
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You will never find any ball with any drill pattern on it to play all the patterns with. That is why people own more than one ball.
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#56548 - 05/13/08 04:09 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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no i got more then 15 of them but i just want one ball with the rico drill i just didnt know what would be the best ball for it.

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#56562 - 05/13/08 07:52 PM Re: Rico Drill [Re: CoachJim]
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So the pin to cg is 45Deg regardless of the pin to PAP distance?


Edited by J_w73 (05/13/08 07:55 PM)

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#56597 - 05/14/08 02:39 AM Re: Rico Drill [Re: J_w73]
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yulp it is still 45 deg

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