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#55466 - 04/28/08 03:03 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Atochabsh]
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Erin,

I don't understand the first part of your last post???

You said that he gets to the foul line way BEFORE the ball and that his footwork was TOO fast but to rectify this he should SLOW down his armswing or SPEED up his footwork???

I think maybe its the opposite of what you said. Maybe he should SPEED UP his armswing or SLOW down his footwork???

What do you think?
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#55470 - 04/28/08 04:35 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Atochabsh]
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Progress is already visible. I've bent at the knees much more, slowed down my footwork, and threw a PB 755 series over lunch today. Balance and timing were really helped by lowering my CG and being more deliberate in my footwork. I'll post another video that shows these changes when I get a chance. Thanks for the inputs, gents!
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#55471 - 04/28/08 05:43 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Chubbs]
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Uhem, gents and Erin.

And, I think Erin said what she meant in reverse order. Jock, it's good having you monitor the board for us. So, when we awake, everything is clear.
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#55482 - 04/28/08 09:30 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I don't post very much, Dennis. I'm not really a specialiste at this bowling thing but I'm getting better. I resarted bowling in 2005 after a 15 year layoff and, as you did Dennis, I had to re-learn everything as it had changed soooo much. I've gotten back to around a 210 average at the moment so that's fine for me, as I was around 211 when I stopped.

Looking at these boards has helped me immensly so it's become one of the first things that I do each day.
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#55528 - 04/28/08 09:31 PM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Jock]
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Dennis-
First, your suggestion to brush across my slide shoe from side to side helped alot so thanks for that. Saying my hand comes out the side of the ball, do you mean I should be more up the back? I know that's kind of basic, but that's how ignorant I am. Cheers!
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#55530 - 04/28/08 09:42 PM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Atochabsh]
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Yeah, sorry for the confusion. Slow down the feet or speed up the arm swing. But most people tend to run up to the foul line, so I tend more towards slowing feet down.

Erin

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#55546 - 04/28/08 11:15 PM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Atochabsh]
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Chubbs, To me, it seemed that you are turning your hand in the last of the downswing instead of at the release. That is too early. Your hand comes out on the side of the ball and continues rotating as your arm crosses in front of you. It makes you pull the ball.

Come straight out of the ball, thumb at 1 o'clock, then as the thumb is out, move the fingers from 6 o'clock to 4 o'clock. Your fingers are at 3 o'clock before you release the ball. Turn your hand after your thumb is out.
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#55634 - 04/30/08 09:05 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LferXYObO9A

Dennis-
I ran out of camera battery right after this, but the next ball I was able to delay my hand coming around the side like you're talking about and I saw a huge difference in the reaction. The ball went deeper, two boards further to the right, and still recovered for 10 in the pit. I can feel the difference between the two releases now so I know when I screw it up, which I think is a good sign. Follow-through is still a little pull-ish, but I think that's slowly getting better as well. Anything else you see?

Coach Jim-
I can actually hold my finish position now for a count or two, which is a marked improvement. Couldn't get anybody to hold the camera for a side view, so I'll keep trying. Anything else?

Thanks for all the inputs, gents. It's nice to be able to practice more constructively!
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#55640 - 04/30/08 09:50 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: Chubbs]
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You are still sliding away to the left of your target and pulling up out of your finish position. Try not to kick your trail leg to the left so much it should still go to the left, but try kicking back the trail leg back in line with the target line, this will help keep you from twisting as you let the ball go.

Your hand is still on the side of the ball in the down swing. Try to keep your hand on the inside of the ball through the swing then turn it at the bottom, but you are much better than before.

Try to keep you left arm up higher for better balance throughout the swing, it may also help prevent you from leaning to the right.

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#55641 - 04/30/08 09:57 AM Re: Balance issues, what else can get better? [Re: CoachJim]
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No surprises there at all, thanks Jim. Trying to get my left foot more underneath me at the finish but obviously I'm not there yet. Will continue to work all the stuff mentioned!


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