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#51022 - 03/02/08 08:20 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: Smooth Stroker]
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USBC Silver Coach
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 2129
A/S/L: Reston, Virginia USA
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Smooth, not every house shot plays the same, if you don't need 4 balls then I'm not insisting you carry 4. The house I bowl in has two different lane oiling machines each one can break down and do weird things to the lane. Some nights I had to start off with a heavy oil ball going across the second arrow out to 5, and by the end of the night I would be in front of the ball return using my dry lane ball, during the rest of the night I would have changed balls 3 times speeds 5 times angle 6 times and release 6 times. Some nights I would stop at the Pro Shop and pick up a new ball and still have 5 balls in my locker and not have a ball that would work for that place, then the next week I would use the same ball all 3 games. There is also no reason that your league balls will not work on some of the sport/pba patterns. Most people don't have the cash or desire to keep up a 12 to 20 ball arsenal when an eight ball arsenal with a few release and speed changes will expand your arsenal to match up just as well with less cost.
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#51042 - 03/03/08 12:03 AM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: CoachJim]
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Legend
Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 1200
A/S/L: 40/M/NYC
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Well, if you don't know what to expect out of your house shot, then by all means carry inside whatever you can lug in. But from all the houses I have bowled in out here in NY, the houses usually use the same pattern day in and day out, whether that's light or heavy. I keep any extra balls in the car. I like to carry in a particle pearl ball because it will play on anything from lightish to heavyish oil. I have learned to carry one wherever I go. The other ball I carry in depends on what is normal for the house. If the house is usually on the heavy side, I carry a matte ball ( that is almost never ). If the house is usually on the light side, I carry a low differential pearl ball for more length ( the norm ).
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#51138 - 03/03/08 06:47 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: Brandon510]
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League Bowler
Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 87
A/S/L: 32/M/MT, United States
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I bowl at two different houses. One is medium oil, the other light. (however today it was bone dry) The one that is medium, usually seems to play more consistent. Meaning, I guess I am more consistent there. The one that is light to bone dry is very inconsistent.
Off topic....does it cost a lot for oil these days? Why would any house consistently let the lanes get so dry?
The house I bowled at last year had heavy/heavy oil. You could see the oil spray off the ball (like a truck through mud) as it went down the lane. Unfortunately that house closed and is something else now, i.e. no longer a bowling center.
I'm only in my second year of bowling, so I am slowly building an arsenal. I'm not at the point where I can tell when to switch balls due to the lanes breaking down. Right now I am just trying to take the approach of getting a ball with different surfaces.
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#53035 - 03/25/08 11:32 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: CoachJim]
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Bracket Donor
Registered: 03/07/08
Posts: 153
A/S/L: 34/m/arizona
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I carry four balls, and my setup is a lot like this. I'll usually switch balls at least once during league, as the shape of my shot changes--I'd rather make a big change if I think it will give me more room to miss, rather than make a small move and try to get by on accuracy. Heavy oil: Storm Agent Benchmark: Brunswick Urethane Groove (non-sanded) Light oil/Down&In/Spare: Brunswick Target Zone 10pin: Columbia White Dot I keep looking for ways to dump the White Dot so I can carry another aggressive ball, but I haven't found another consistent solution for the 10pin yet.
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#53044 - 03/26/08 02:06 AM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: untutored]
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Bracket Donor
Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 130
A/S/L: 17/M/CA
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Hey untutored, How come you don't use your Target Zone for your 10 pins, since it is also a spare ball/polyester ball, instead of using a separate White Dot? That way, you can carry much more aggressive balls.
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#56026 - 05/06/08 02:18 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: untutored]
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Hall of Famer Hopeful
Registered: 05/05/08
Posts: 898
A/S/L: 20/Male/California, US
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I had the same issue with my Columbia 300 Scout Reactive ball. I found two things that work for me. I don't have a plastic or urethane ball to throw at ten pins. The first thing that I found out is that if I stand on the filler board and pull my index finger in toward my other fingers and extend my small figure out as far as I can I can get a straight roll out of my ball. The last thing you have to do is throw it anywhere between the 20 and 15 boards. The other is to again stand on the filler board and walk at a steeper angle towards (kind walk at where the two pin would be) the ten pin and let the ball slid across the lane (again hitting anywhere between the 20 and 15 boards until it hits the dry and picks up. This one's kind of tough for me to suggest without actually seeing you throw the ball and seeing how it reacts.
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#60450 - 06/30/08 05:36 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: Smooth Stroker]
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Junior
Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 21
A/S/L: 44/M/NM
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Coach Jim, terrific thread, I was going to leave a specific post about my current fascination with equipment (yea I got the ball bug all of a sudden). This is after bowling with basically one ball for 4 1/2 years ( Columbia Titanium Messenger Pearl, it's the brown Messenger). I bought a Blue Vibe at Nationals thinking it'd be a good dry lane ball. Boy, that sucker moves more then I thought it would. Our lanes have been pretty bone dry as of late, but it defintely moved more then my Messenger (one bowler friend of mine thinks I've burnt out the Messenger and need a new benchmark ball). BV might even make a decent new benchmark ball for me. I've been considering, Momentum, Rival, Storm Street Rod Pearl. The guy at Nationals that drilled my ball said I might like their new Psycho ( Hammer guy). The Brunswick booth in Albuquerque was busier then all the others combined. I talked to the guy there, telling him we bowl on wood lanes and he suggested a Rampage or an Avalanche. Probably for drier lanes. He said for Albuquerque, I'd need something stronger (I averaged 182 with my Messenger in Albuquerque). So I guess my question is, stick with Columbia 300, or just mix and match and try them all. It sounds like fun but I know since the Messenger was a good ball for my home house, something similar makes sense doesn't it?
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