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#60451 - 06/30/08 05:37 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: Smooth Stroker]
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Junior
Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 21
A/S/L: 44/M/NM
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Coach Jim, terrific thread, I was going to leave a specific post about my current fascination with equipment (yea I got the ball bug all of a sudden). This is after bowling with basically one ball for 4 1/2 years (Columbia Titanium Messenger Pearl, it's the brown Messenger).
I bought a Blue Vibe at Nationals thinking it'd be a good dry lane ball. Boy, that sucker moves more then I thought it would. Our lanes have been pretty bone dry as of late, but it defintely moved more then my Messenger (one bowler friend of mine thinks I've burnt out the Messenger and need a new benchmark ball). BV might even make a decent new benchmark ball for me.
I've been considering, Momentum, Rival, Storm Street Rod Pearl. The guy at Nationals that drilled my ball said I might like their new Psycho (Hammer guy).
The Brunswick booth in Albuquerque was busier then all the others combined. I talked to the guy there, telling him we bowl on wood lanes and he suggested a Rampage or an Avalanche. Probably for drier lanes. He said for Albuquerque, I'd need something stronger (I averaged 182 with my Messenger in Albuquerque, My book was 188 last year and 178 the year before, so I was thrilled with 182 avg in ABQ.).
So I guess my question is, stick with Columbia 300, or just mix and match and try them all. It sounds like fun but I know since the Messenger was a good ball for my home house, something similar makes sense doesn't it?
I throw about 13.5 mph at least as measured on the scoring machine. I kind of consider myself a down and in player, THS over second arrow bowler, like to go outside. But with BV, had to go pretty deep inside (for me). Ball worked, have to give it credit.
Edited by VPmiracle (06/30/08 05:41 PM)
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#60468 - 06/30/08 09:25 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: CoachJim]
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Junior
Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 21
A/S/L: 44/M/NM
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I didn't know any of this, thanks a lot.
I asked the guy at the desk last week. They dressed the lanes and they broke down in like 6 frames (and we bowl 4 games). Here's what he told me.
They are using synthetic oil for a wood house. Why? He said the oil for wood is $550 for 5 quarts. The synthetic stuff is $55 for the same amount. Now i'm no expert on this topic, but I guess they're using the wrong oil to save money.
I'm thinking of bowling 45-minutes away in the fall, but then my equipment would really not be appropriate for that place.
Thanks for the reply and sorry about the double post above, my browser acted like it got knocked off line, but i guess the post made it through anyway.
Edited by VPmiracle (06/30/08 09:27 PM)
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#60476 - 06/30/08 11:29 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: CoachJim]
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Junior
Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 21
A/S/L: 44/M/NM
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I really liked the looks (for what that's worth) of the Momentum. The Rival had peeked my interest too. Could've used something a little stronger in ABQ but for once a year, I made hay with my Messenger.
The Brunswick booth at Nationals was 4 times busier then everywhere else, is there stuff that good, that popular? I'm not too familiar with their line but a lot of guys were drooling over the Twisted Fury (I think that's the name, looked like a marble).
I used my plastic ball for strike shots in game four last week, not a whole lot of success but it was moving, rolling it up five and it'd get around the pocket.
I stayed and practiced and that's when I found the Vibe would work. But I was trying to use it off my Messenger line and adjust a board or two or three. I needed to make a major move to the inside and swing it and found a shot on the dry boards for the Vibe.
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#60481 - 07/01/08 12:09 AM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: VPmiracle]
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Team USA Contender
Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 494
A/S/L: 30/M/Niceville, FL
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I have a Twisted Fury at 1000 Abralon polished, and it is my benchmark ball. Versatility is this ball's biggest asset. On wood lanes, I start out with the Twisted and ball down as conditions require. On synthetic and fresh conditions, the Twisted can squirt so I will ball up if need be. The knock on the Twisted has been that it doesn't handle fresh/flooded or dry very well, but that's not what it was designed for. You can find a line on anything in between that will work well, and from there your adjustments will be small. Very good ball, but it might be stronger than you'd want for your benchmark. Definitely worth a good look, though!
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#60483 - 07/01/08 12:51 AM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: Chubbs]
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Junior
Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 21
A/S/L: 44/M/NM
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Folks were drooling over them at the Brunswick kisok at Nationals. As you can tell, I spent a lot of time at all the places, trying to find out information. I came back with info. which led to more questions! Thanks for your input though.
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#60493 - 07/01/08 07:23 AM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: CoachJim]
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Registered: 10/12/07
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I do love my avalanche solid - as a benchmark ball, those with less hand might find it a bit lacking. From your description of your game, and where you are playing on wood, you will need something that is a step up from the Avalanche when you get more a more medium-heavy shot on synthetics. The cover does seem pretty versatile, so you may be able to take it to 1000 or 2000, but at the box finish, it might be a bit long for you as a benchmark ball.
EDIT: As mentioned, the Twisted Fury is a good "one step up" from the Avalanche. As a plus, both are very controllable - having those 2 balls, plus something like a Cell, would be a great 3 ball arsenal that could handle just about anything.
Edited by cgeorg (07/01/08 07:25 AM)
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#60548 - 07/01/08 05:20 PM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: cgeorg]
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Junior
Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 21
A/S/L: 44/M/NM
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Thanks cgeorg. Are you a Brunswick fan? I couldn't believe how busy their booth was in Albuquerque compared to all the others. I've usually had columbia 300 stuff for whatever reason.
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#60580 - 07/02/08 12:34 AM
Re: Building an Arsenal
[Re: CoachJim]
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High Roller
Registered: 02/06/08
Posts: 382
A/S/L: 66/m/Wynantskill/ny/usa
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Coach,
If you recall I wasn't too happy in finding a "wormhole" at the bottom of my thumbhole in a newly purchased Twisted Fury. It turns out that the hole is the result of a "straw" that was used in the manufacturing process involving the locator pin. At the same time I wasn't at all happy with the distributor who would not take the ball back unless I submitted photographs of the wormhole...an attempt to photograph the hole was largely unsuccessful.
I did bowl a couple of games and was satisfied with how the ball reacted and have decided to keep it. If I did return it I would have to pay for the drilling the replacement.
In the event I run into dryer conditions that the Twisted Fury can't handle I recently purchased a Roto Grip Neptune.
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