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#46916 - 01/02/08 01:44 PM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Angel]
Timotheus Offline
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Well the difference between Detroit/Buffalo (and all of Michigan and New York really) and Reno is that the former have plowing systems that are very well funded and very large so snow is rarely that much of a problem there because its gone as fast as its falling. In fact in order for the plows to really fall behind the snow has to accumulate at rates higher than about 1.5 feet per hour.

Reno I imagine has a pretty poor plowing system simply because they don't generally get the snow accumulation to warrant it. Here in Syracuse, perennially the snowiest place in the country, we get on average 180 inches (15 feet) a year or more, and just before Christmas we already had a total of almost 10 feet that had fallen on us. But we didn't have any major closings except for the local grade schools (K-12) because of the plows. If Reno had a plowing system like the Northeast and Mid-Northern regions do then that storm wouldn't be as big a deal.
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#46924 - 01/02/08 02:33 PM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Timotheus]
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She didn't say that Reno was getting 10 feet. She said that the region that she has to drive through is getting 10 feet.

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#46925 - 01/02/08 02:34 PM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Timotheus]
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The big problem isn't Reno per say. They do not get a lot of snow. Its the pass between Sacramento and Reno. And they are used to getting many many feet of snow each year. So they do have good plowing system (tourism would demand it) but when it comes down in blizzard conditions with 50mph winds its downright dangerous. We go right by Boreal Ski resort and they currently have a base 53" of snow. Kirkwood and Donner have 48 inches of base. So there's plenty of snow up there now.

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#46928 - 01/02/08 02:50 PM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Atochabsh]
Timotheus Offline
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Ah gotcha. With all this stuff I'm trying to figure out at work I didn't pay enough attention to what she was actually saying, d'oh! In that case yeah you're going to run into problems anywhere you go. Lefty you should know all about that since you're only right down the road from me!
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#46941 - 01/03/08 01:18 AM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Timotheus]
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::West Slope Northern Sierra Nevada
Blizzard Warning:


Issued at: 2:45 PM PST 1/2/08, expires at: 10:45 PM PST 1/2/08

Blizzard warning in effect from 4 am Friday to 4 am pst saturday, Winter storm watch no longer in effect.
The NWS in sacramento has issued a blizzard warning, which is in effect from 4 am Friday to 4 am pst saturday. The winter storm watch is no longer in effect.
The first in a series of storms is forecast to impact the sierra nevada late Thursday through Friday morning. A second more powerful storm will move through the sierra cascade range Friday afternoon through Saturday morning.
Snowfall amounts from 3 to 5 feet are expected over the sierra nevada between Thursday evening and Saturday morning above snow levels with several more feet of snow possible at the highest elevations. Snowfall is likely to accumulate at a rate of several inches per hour at times through the warning period, the heaviest snowfall expected Friday afternoon with the stronger second system. In addition to the heavy snowfall, strong winds are expected. Wind speed gusts in excess of 65 mph are expected with the Thursday night system and wind speed gusts in excess of 100 mph possible on Friday afternoon with the second system. The combination of heavy snow and powerful wind will likely cause frequent whiteout conditions. Travel over the higher passes will be very difficult, if not impossible at times between Thursday evening and Saturday morning.
The wind and snow may decrease by mid day Saturday, but will not entirely end. A third, colder storm is expected to move over the area late Saturday into Sunday with a foot or more of additional snow possible.
Snow levels will begin around 5500 to 6000 Thursday night into friday. Lower snow levels are expected Friday night into saturday, from 3500 to 4500 feet. Even lower snow levels are forecast for Saturday night and Sunday.
A blizzard warning means severe winter weather conditions are expected or occurring. Falling and blowing snow with strong winds and poor visibilities are likely. This will lead to whiteout conditions, making travel extremely dangerous. Do not travel. If you must, have a winter survival kit with you. If you get stranded, stay with your vehicle. ::

Winter Sierra conditions.

Erin



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#46942 - 01/03/08 05:33 AM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Atochabsh]
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#46949 - 01/03/08 10:56 AM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Reader]
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Boy, you gotta love bowling to go through those conditions

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#46950 - 01/03/08 11:18 AM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Dennis Michael]
Timotheus Offline
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I'll drive in snow and 65 mph wind gusts, its not that much of an uncommon occurance around here and most of our roads are ground level and pretty straight (won't go on the freeways though), but 100mph gusts is ridiculous.
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#46954 - 01/03/08 01:14 PM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Timotheus]
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The problem is definitely that Reno is in a valley. They get very little snow in town, and what they get melts quickly. But from the California side, you're going up a good 7000 feet to get into that valley. The pass itself is the danger--going through a mountain range.

To be honest, the tour will be here in a couple weeks and because of traffic, if the tour was down here this week and the 5" of rain slated to come this weekend arrived, I wouldn't likely make the drive. The 70-mile trip that takes an hour can also take 3+ hours in bad weather. As much as I'd miss visiting with friends, it's just not worth the danger.
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#46956 - 01/03/08 02:06 PM Re: Reno Tour Stop......Snow again [Re: Angel]
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OK Thank you for the concern.. However I will state that we are snow bunnies and we still plan on going. We have 2 sets of chains and all winter gear in the car allready. We will be careful all and thank you. we will be taking the I 80 route no back hwys they are more dangerous in the snow. Even though the storm is suppose to be bad this is the only vchance we get and so we are going.
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