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#49177 - 02/07/08 06:29 PM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Calvin Pistorio]
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I may get yelled at for my comment but I do know we can say our opinion on this site.. I like Rob and he was very personable in person. I like what he has brought to the announcing and even though he may ask "stupid" questions at least he is asking? and not just going aloong with it and really messing up. I'm also going to say my husband thought of a new name for the six strikes in a row call it the six-pack.. I honestly forget what it's called I dont see it much. I think for sure Rob Stone is good for the sport commentary.
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#49182 - 02/07/08 07:28 PM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: tweety/ Mr. Tweety]
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The way I remember everything after a turkey was 4-bagger, 5-bagger, 6-bagger, so on.

I will admit Rob is kind of irritating but I think they are at least trying to make an effort to have an exciteable announcer to create interest. A lot of it smacks of gimmickry but I find it hard to find fault for trying to create more interest in the sport.
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#49185 - 02/07/08 08:03 PM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Scott Gannon]
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I don't have much issue with Stone other than the hambone thing. I've heard of a six bagger as a six pack many times before, the only other one that has a special name is the 12 in a row, and thats perfection to me.
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#49203 - 02/08/08 03:25 AM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Calvin Pistorio]
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As Timotheus stated, in general, a sleeper is something that isn't expected, or surprises you. Websters defines a sleeper as: someone or something unpromising or unnoticed that suddenly attains prominence or value. In that regard, a bowler might not notice that there is a pin directly behind another one, yet attains prominence when the front pin is removed and the bowler realizes has...

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#49213 - 02/08/08 09:51 AM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: kagekikr]
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I've been calling 6 in a row a "six pack" since I was like 9 or 10 and I heard it from the older people in the league I was in, so that's been around the game for a long long time. Even the "exciter graphics" on the machines at some of the houses around here have 6-pack references for a 6 stringer (even though I do everything I can to turn those graphics off).

As for Rob Stone, as annoying as the hambone thing may be, he does get excited about the game and seems to get more and more excited every week as his knowledge of the game grows. He also doesn't try to sound like he knows everything about the game, and if he doesn't know something he comes out and says that he doesn't know and then asks for an explanation. That's the kind of thing that makes a broadcaster good, unlike say, John Madden.
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#49251 - 02/09/08 09:37 AM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Timotheus]
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Forget the fact that I like Stone.. you have to remember that it could always be worse. We could have someone like Bryant Gumbel. He seems to be clueless about any sport he covers and never seems to learn a thing.


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#49252 - 02/09/08 09:57 AM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Lefty]
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I admit the Stone doesn't know much about the sport and that ESPN is thrusting him on the bowling public. But, he has an enthusiam for the sport and is learning. Last week, he asked the origin of a "sleeper". He has a desire to learn. Most people agree that the hambone is a bit overblown. But, as a commentator, he is good. For a sport that he is just learning, he is doing really well. I think that Randy and him work well together.

It comes down to, no matter who is in the booth, people would still complain. I agree with Lefty that Stone is much better than if we had someone like Gumbel.
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#49254 - 02/09/08 11:30 AM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: General Pounder]
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But, he is no Chris Schenkel or Whispering Joe Wilson.

Schenkel didn't know much about the sport, but announced as a professional.
Wilson new the sport, the bowlers and the tactics.

Stone acts like people I have seen too many times. Think they know something, when they really don't. So they make up games and make a mockery of what he is doing. They think they are being cute.

Sorry, to me, he is just plain dumb. Maybe in three years, he will learn the terminology. It takes others their first year to know what they are talking about.
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#49257 - 02/09/08 01:12 PM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Gone are the days where you can have an announcer like Shenkel. He'd put the audience to sleep. I think Stone is a very professional announcer. He's just excitable. I also think you're over blowing the "mockery" bit. It's only a mockery if you make the PBA finals some life or death event. Stone has even acknowledged that the hambone has rubbed some people the wrong way. He's having fun with it. He even said "What have I done?!"

I think that no only is he doing a decent job, He's blown Dave Ryan out of the water. He's also 100 times more appropriate to be a bowling announcer today than Shenkel.

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#49279 - 02/10/08 12:01 AM Re: Rob Stone makes an impact [Re: Lefty]
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I'd like to see comparative TV ratings for the Ryan era and Stone. Don't think he has made an impact on the viewership, except tick a few people off. Course, some will watch just for that.
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